[ SECRET POST #3152 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3152 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Biolabs (Ragnarok Online)]


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05. http://i.imgur.com/Y2CLL5n.gif
[moving gif - that Hulk/Black Widow porn one]


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[Dresden Codak]


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07. [SPOILERS for Borderlands 2]
[WARNING for abuse and stuff]



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08. [WARNING for death/suicide]



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09. [WARNING for suicide]

[Final Fantasy X]


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10. [WARNING for rape]



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11. [WARNING for rape]



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12. [WARNING for underage/sexual assault, transphobia]














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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe because rape by a woman isn't taken seriously and more often than not played for laughs. Often the victim, especially a male, is treated as if they should be considered lucky. There was a whole movie for teens that ended with a by having to beg his girlfriend for forgiveness for being raped. Media overwhelmingly portrays the act of raping women as a horrible scummy thing to do, and there how countless movies and shows that stress how bad it is.

Woman rapists? Not so much.

[(Anonymous)]

Media overwhelmingly portrays the act of raping women as a horrible scummy thing to do

Yes and no. I agree that, when the rape is actually recognized as rape, it gets portrayed as a horrible thing to do. However, there are SO MANY instances of male-committed rape in popular fiction where the rape isn't recognized as rape, and is either treated as hot, or as simply "predatory sex" or something.

For example, a popular show like The Vampire Diaries (especially in the early seasons) is full of male vampires "compelling" female humans into a willing state and then having sex with them. Yet the show never really acknowledges it as rape. Damon (main character) rapes Caroline (another main character) numerous times in season one, without it ever really being dealt with.

Chuck attempts to rape Jenny in the pilot of Gossip Girl, but it's never really acknowledged until like four seasons later where it gets one little throw away line about how maybe he tried to do a bad thing there.

And don't even get me started on Fifty Shades of Grey, or the many, many other, less popular romance novels that romanticize rape, simply because the author and many of the readers don't understand that it is rape.

In fiction where a woman rapes a man, it's often passed over for much the same reason: people simply don't recognize it as rape. The biggest example I can think of at the moment is in Shameless, where Sheila rapes Frank and it's played as some kind of joke. Then, much later in the series, Sheila confesses that she's a sexual sadist. She evidently feels guilt over it, but it remains unclear whether she/the writers recognize that she is in fact a rapist.

When female-committed rape in fiction isn't properly dealt with, that definitely bothers me. However, I don't make the mistake of thinking it's more prevalent than male committed rape not being properly dealt with, because it really isn't.

[(Anonymous)]

Do you think that the fact that all of the examples you cite for male rape not being taken seriously are romance stories explicitly and specifically targeted towards women has any relevance to your argument?

[(Anonymous)]

No, why would it?

[(Anonymous)]

Actually, let me rephrase: No, that has absolutely zero relevance to the argument at hand.

[(Anonymous)]

Because it could imply that the relative seriousness of the act is not the only factor that determines whether or not rape is portrayed as serious.

It seems much more likely to me that it's portrayed that way in those shows because it's a kink that appeals to a certain population of women, and much less likely that it's portrayed that way because of a societal aversion from taking rape seriously.

I mean, I don't really want into get into the weeds of the whole ravishment argument, b/c I think it's bullshit, but I think you would expect rape to be portrayed differently when it's almost explicitly a rape fantasy.

[(Anonymous)]

I think what's immediately and pressingly relevant is the basics: Is it rape? If yes, is it treated accordingly? The "If it's not treated accordingly, why not, and what implications does that have for broader society?" portion of the issue is...a whole other conversation, tangentially related to the point we're arguing, but not directly within the scope of this argument, IMO.

Furthermore, I don't agree that "It was rape but it was depicted as sexy because it turned out she actually wanted it," is any less damaging or problematic an explanation for why a rape was depicted inappropriately than "It was rape but it wasn't really because he's a man and men can't be raped." Both of those notions stem from the same source: rape culture, sexism, the gender binary, etc., etc. (Do I need to elaborate on this bit? Probably not?)

[(Anonymous)]

A comic that's aimed gender-neutral-to-male audience showed a male character raping his wife in order to get a child so the neighbors would stop laughing at him for playing with geeky kids toys. This is portrayed as funny.