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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-08-22 04:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #3153 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3153 ⌋

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Re: Your weirdest ship

(Anonymous) 2015-08-22 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I only ship Kirk/Spock (TOS) as a mental bond. I have no interest in reading about them having sex, but all the t'hy'la (or however you spell it) mind-melding in the tie-in novels? Turns my crank big time.

Re: Your weirdest ship

(Anonymous) 2015-08-22 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Then that isn't shipping. It's this mysterious thing called "friendship" (with a telepathy bonus) that people in fandom seem to have a hard time wrapping their mind around.

Re: Your weirdest ship

(Anonymous) 2015-08-22 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
naryrt

I love you so much. Marry me.
intrigueing: (happy nine)

Re: Your weirdest ship

[personal profile] intrigueing 2015-08-22 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
You just made my day, anon.

Re: Your weirdest ship

(Anonymous) 2015-08-22 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

But it's not strictly friendship; there's a sensual component involved.

Re: Your weirdest ship

(Anonymous) 2015-08-22 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Does it have explicitly romantic feelings? Does it involve sexual arousal/pleasure? If yes, I concede.

If not, then no, it's friendship. Friendship isn't a 100% rigid black-and-white thing on which nothing of a remotely sensual nature can ever infringe.

But of course, I would have to read these fics to tell. Do you have links?

Re: Your weirdest ship

(Anonymous) 2015-08-23 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
A-fucking-men!
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Re: Your weirdest ship

[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-08-23 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
IDK about Star Trek but this sentiment really bugs me. SEX IS NOT REQUIRED FOR ROMANCE.

Re: Your weirdest ship

(Anonymous) 2015-08-23 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Yeah, true, but I meant that if the ayrt was going by friendship + the mind-melding from the novel = automatic romance, that's bogus.

If they ship them, but in an asexual way, that's a totally different story and perfectly reasonable -- I understand that it is a thing, even if it's very rare in fanfic.
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Re: Your weirdest ship

[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-08-23 05:26 am (UTC)(link)
Fair enough!
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Re: Your weirdest ship

[personal profile] intrigueing 2015-08-23 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
That's true. However, I think it's an unusual and vague enough concept that any specific fic's version of non-sexual romance needs to be defined kind of explicitly to be convincing (unless of course the writer is deliberately leaving the relationship ambiguous, which is totally different and also a pretty cool thing in fanfic). Mind-melding in itself doesn't constitute romance, and t'hy'la pretty explicitly is a word that is applied to those who are thought of as friends, brothers, or lovers.

I have read a couple of fics that did the "non-sexual romantic relationship" idea really well actually, though not in this fandom...
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Re: Your weirdest ship

[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-08-23 05:26 am (UTC)(link)
Mind-melding in itself doesn't constitute romance, and t'hy'la pretty explicitly is a word that is applied to those who are thought of as friends, brothers, or lovers.

Ah, okay. That's context I didn't have. Thanks!