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⌈ Secret Post #3153 ⌋

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Re: eeek, long comment, sorry

[(Anonymous)]

If one were to pay close attention to what she says in her books, her view of capitalism is nothing like it is practiced today.

Everything she disliked in what businessmen and corporations were doing are the same things that gives capitalism a bad name today. She was against outsourcing, speculating the stock market (which drives inflation), cronyism, the concept of corporation itself, political favors (no government involved), corporate "personhood" (she would be horrified), big business exploiting ways to prevent healthy competition from small business.

It's interesting that many of her villains are businessmen.

All these corporate assholes who cherry pick her works and claim to be her fans, she would have absolutely loathed them. Especially Paul Ryan. She came to hate conservatives.

Yeah, she was far from perfect, and so were her ideas, but she isn't as horrible as some people make her out to be.

Re: eeek, long comment, sorry

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If one were to pay close attention to what she says in her books, her view of capitalism is nothing like it is practiced today.

I agree, and it's one of the things I find incredibly frustrating about all the people who knee-jerk hate Rand and her books. I don't think many of those people even try to understand what Rand is actually trying to say.

However, the flaws in Rand's philosophy are, IMO, so tightly and thoroughly interwoven with what's actually good about her philosophy that it can be very hard to separate them, or even tell the difference between the two. Not to mention, she wants the reader to understand capitalism as something it simply isn't, and as something I don't believe it could ever actually be (in theory, yes; in practice, no). So I suppose I blame her for having the narcissism to believe so unquestioningly in her own philosophy that she failed to recognize it was poisoned by her own personal biases (growing up in communist Russia) and presumptions (Capitalism is noble!).

And while I don't believe she meant for people to use her books to justify the sociopathy of modern day corporate capitalism, there's still so much about her books that does encourage people to despise the weak and the inactive, and to despise socialism. And that's pretty toxic.

And hey, within the context of her books, I'm totally fine with despising Peter Keeting and James Taggart and Lillian Rearden and the like. Because the way they're depicted makes them thoroughly deserve to be despised. The trouble is, in the real world the people who are often laziest and weakest of character are the leaders, the ones with the power and the money. But your average reader is not going to recognize that Rand gravely miscast her "weaklings" and her "moochers," because that would mean rejecting the ideas that are right there on the page making them feel good, in favor of more challenging and less gratifying ideas.

Yeah, she was far from perfect, and so were her ideas, but she isn't as horrible as some people make her out to be.

I agree. In fact, I almost...kind of...like her? In a way. I like that she was this bold, OTT powerhouse of a woman; taking no shit and giving no fucks; smart, passionate, ugly as dirt, kind of an asshole. I think she probably did more harm than good in the world, and I doubt I would have liked her had I met her, but as a person who existed and was this complete character and commanded respect from a country of men whose capacity to respect women had all but atrophied...I kind of have to respect her.