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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-02-03 05:52 pm

[ SECRET POST #394 ]


⌈ Secret Post #394 ⌋

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[identity profile] jlarinda.livejournal.com 2008-02-04 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
The OP was. And you were agreeing with them.

Just because YOU could say 'no', it doesn't mean every single young girl will have the same strong will or w/e. Personal experience =/= every single person in the world's experience.

[identity profile] tealizard.livejournal.com 2008-02-04 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
I agreed with part of what they said.

People make it out to be alot HARDER than what it really is. BUT I COULDN'T SAY NO. HE WOULD LEAVE ME. Then he's TOTALLY WORTH STAYING WITH YEP.

[identity profile] jlarinda.livejournal.com 2008-02-04 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
No, people know that not every person is the same and that you should evaluate the circumstances and not judge everyone because of a mistake they made.

[identity profile] tealizard.livejournal.com 2008-02-04 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
I also have stated that I'm not judging anyone. I just don't nessicarily feel sorry for them without knowing their story.

[identity profile] jlarinda.livejournal.com 2008-02-04 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
You don't need to feel sorry for them. But you sound pretty judgemental.

[identity profile] tealizard.livejournal.com 2008-02-04 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
I'm judgemental to those who DO do those things. If I see a kid WITH a child, I'm not going to go HOW DARE SHE. If I meet someone who had a kid because they had unprotected sex, I'll say wow you're stupid. And my opinion is that if you have unprotected sex as a teenager, you're an IDIOT. That doesn't mean that I'm going to judge someone just because they HAVE a child.

[identity profile] jlarinda.livejournal.com 2008-02-04 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
It did sound that way :/ Saying 'How hard it is to WAIT' and such, it seemed like any teenager having sex = IDIOT, as opposed to 'anyone having unprotected sex and ending up with an unwanted child = IDIOT'. I do agree with the second one.

[identity profile] tealizard.livejournal.com 2008-02-04 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Well, it is still stupid to have sex at that age. But you know, if you're using BC... at least you tried to stop yourself from having a kid/stds etc... but unprotected sex = durrrrrr

also, if you complain about ending up pregnant even though you USED protection, *you being general, here*, well... protection isn't always 100%.... but at least you did use some?

[identity profile] coutureable.livejournal.com 2008-02-05 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's funny you're judging girls who have sex young and get pregnant since...

you're a homosexual and all

[identity profile] tealizard.livejournal.com 2008-02-05 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I take that back. You ARE an idiot. And a homophobe. beautiful :D

[identity profile] fairness.livejournal.com 2008-02-05 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait, are you serious?

You choose to have sex. You choose to use birth control/condoms. On the chance that the condom broke, you choose whether or not to use Plan B. If you get pregnant, you choose whether or not you want to have the child or abort. If you DO have the child, you choose whether you raise it or give it up for adoption.

choice =/= the way you are.

Or are you one of those people who thinks that people CHOOSE their sexuality?

If you want people to take you seriously, I'd advise you stop acting arrogant, trollish, and downright rude to people.

[identity profile] a-white-rain.livejournal.com 2008-02-04 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
People make it out to be alot HARDER than what it really is. BUT I COULDN'T SAY NO. HE WOULD LEAVE ME. Then he's TOTALLY WORTH STAYING WITH YEP.
Wow if only abusive relationships were as fucking easy as you thought they were.

Fuck you.

[identity profile] a-white-rain.livejournal.com 2008-02-04 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
No seriously do you know how ignorant you came off right there? If a woman so desperately wants to be with a man that he can get sex out of her easily then the relationship is abusive. Let's not even get into the man who would manipulate sex out of someone.

[identity profile] tealizard.livejournal.com 2008-02-04 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
and you're talking Like I haven't been in that situation. I have. I have been there.

[identity profile] a-white-rain.livejournal.com 2008-02-04 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
You have the personality and backing to be strong enough to say 'no'. Good for you. Not everyone does. Blaming the victim is disgusting.

[identity profile] tealizard.livejournal.com 2008-02-04 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not 'blaming' the victim. I'm saying that people make saying no to "but ill break up with you" seem alot harder. Most of those people HAVENT been there.

[identity profile] a-white-rain.livejournal.com 2008-02-04 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
But it's not always easy to say no when you're in an abusive relationship. And yes, you are if your boyfriend is manipulating you. Now a lot of women would would have the strength to say no, but a lot of women don't have that kind of strength for various reasons.

[identity profile] midnightdiddle.livejournal.com 2008-02-04 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
First off, you don't know if most of those people haven't been there. Unless you can magically read their minds, or have seen everything they've gone through, you don't know what they have or haven't been through. And secondly, everyone is different, and like other commentors have said, everyone reacts to pressure differently.

Some people can say no easily. Some people can't. Some people just desperately want love, so much that they'll do anything, even things they don't really want to do.

So honestly, to belittle people for having a difficult time saying no is just pathetic. D: Have some sympathy for other people. Even if they aren't the cancer patients.

[identity profile] jewbrat.livejournal.com 2008-02-04 04:41 am (UTC)(link)
i'm siding with a_white_rain here.
go fuck yourself.
no. seriously. you have NO IDEA, judging by what you've said, what it's like to be the girl being pressured by a very manipulative person. women can be awful, but men are just as capable of taking advantage of a girls weaknesses and exploiting them for they're own personal agenda. Speaking from very personal experience, sometimes the thought of the person you're with (even if they're the devil himself, it doesn't matter because you are BLINDED by your affection for them) can feel like the end of the world.

lol daddy complexes etc.
get more edumacated before you argue a point next time.