[ SECRET POST #3154 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3154 ⌋

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Comments

[erinptah]

You don't see how it would be offensive to create a fictional white guy and then make him look more heroic by pilfering the actions of real live non-white people to paste into his narrative?

I mean, c'mon, if there was a movie version of the Montgomery bus boycotts that started with a fictional dude refusing to go to the back of the bus, people would boggle. Why would you do that? It's not a ~storytelling choice~, it's just bizarre.

[(Anonymous)]

It has to be relateable to normal people not just pressure groups and historians, I've no problem subbing characters in to make that happen.

[erinptah]

Ah, of course, only white men are "relateable" to "normal people"! That makes total sense, and is not screamingly racist/sexist at all.

[(Anonymous)]

Don't get mad at me, it is a social expectation. Even blacks relate better to a movie if a white man is the hero. Look at Die Hard or James Bond, way popular among blacks as well as white people.

[fingalsanteater]

Lmao. This is the most ridiculous comment.

[(Anonymous)]

"blacks"

ohhhh, okay then. i see how it is. you're just a racist troll.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT
Are you black? If so, is that no longer a preferred term?

[(Anonymous)]

this is a terrible post tbh

[(Anonymous)]

Cause whites are the only normal people?

[darkmanifest]

Why, exactly? Usually the argument "it has to be relatable to most people!" is for financial reasons, but Stonewall is already a niche movie about a minority social issue, Joe White Hero isn't going to magically make it a blockbuster where otherwise it would have gone unnoticed.

[arcadiaego]

Black and gay people aren't normal, ok.

[(Anonymous)]

Excep t there WERE actually people who were white in the riots.

[erinptah]

We agree that it's not a problem to show white people in the riots in general!

The problem is when you're overwriting specific history-making figures with a made-up character. You shouldn't replace Rosa Parks with your own Original Male Character, and you shouldn't write out Marsha P. Johnson in order to show the first brick being thrown by a made-up white guy in a T-shirt and jeans.

[(Anonymous)]

She's in the movie and he isn't the first person to throw a brick.

[(Anonymous)]

Whose actions are they pilfering?

[erinptah]

Marsha P. Johnson, irl black drag queen/trans activist (it's not totally clear how she would classify her gender identity in modern terms), generally credited with throwing the first brick. The leadership of the protests was heavy on trans women/drag queens of color in general, including Sylvia Rivera.

[(Anonymous)]

Marsha's in the movie.

Sylvia lied about being there.

[erinptah]

If she's there, and if they haven't done anything terrible in portraying her, I will be very relieved!

...now if only that could unmake the "black people aren't ~relatable~ enough" racism that's crawled out of the woodwork in the meantime.