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Do you think that we're not? That these ideas aren't out there in the culture?

And while those are important messages, a problem does arise where those things get used as a way to yell at women who get raped because they didn't do one of those things. Which is fucked up and wrong.

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I think they were referencing the quote "DON'T teach women how to avoid rape" and saying we are currently right to do both instead of stopping teaching women

That seems to be the desired solution. All I ever see is that INSTEAD OF teaching women not to be raped, we should teach men not to rape. It's basically a cliche, it gets said so often. The point that people are still going to try to rape these women who aren't being taught how not to be raped rarely comes up, and when it does, someone yells "victim blaming" and shoots it down.

The point that people are still going to try to rape these women who aren't being taught how not to be raped rarely comes up

it comes up all the fucking time, at least in any conversation involving the population at large

it is perhaps not wise to take tumblr as the only social reality

NA Oh god this!

So also teach people not to yell at women for getting raped. The logic you're talking about is saying it's more important to make sure women who've already been raped not get blamed for it than it is for them not to get raped in the first place. And that's fucked up and wrong.

So also teach people not to yell at women for getting raped.

that is - i would say - pretty much the single main point of the "teach men not to rape" discourse

also, I strongly doubt that any of the advice mentioned in the OP is going to have a significant negative effect on the number of rapes committed, and I'm honestly kind of bewildered by the view that it would

If it isn't statistically significant is isn't worth doing?

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almost definitionally, yes

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