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⌈ Secret Post #3159 ⌋

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[Knights Errant]

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06. [SPOILERS for Tales of the Abyss]

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07. [WARNING for rape]

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08. [WARNING for sexual assault/harassment]

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09. [WARNING for child sexual abuse]

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Given you really like the work, but they have done something problematic by your standards.

I can accept about 70% of stuff - but i'll be watching or reading something thinking "Eh, well, they did that...", but I will not support a racist or a sexual assailant, hands down.

There's a couple people I don't support because I think they're consistently and aggressively assholes, but not especially bad otherwise. However, for the most a creator would have to do something especially terrible (rape, pedo-stuff, ect) for me to no longer support them

Two words: Bill Cosby.

Five extra: Jimmy Saville and Rolf Harris.

While we're at it, here's three more: Marion Zimmer Bradley.

Oh, what'd she do?

Knowingly allowed her husband to molest kids, and was OK with it as long as it wasn't her kids he was molesting.

I think she was also molesting her daughter herself

Re: At what point would you not support an author's work?

caerbannog - 2015-08-29 10:38 (UTC) - Expand

(Anonymous) - 2015-08-29 12:41 (UTC) - Expand

Three more: Jared from Subway.

Still like his stuff.

Well confirmed murderer/rapist/that kind of stuff will have me bail like nobody's business.

Extreme sexism/homophobia would have me jump ship quickly.

Casual sexism/homophobia will depend on how frequent it is. But if I'm thinking every other page "that's offensive" i'll drop it.

Couple of times in a book.....depends on how much I like that book.

If it's someone I'm truly a fan of, I need to see evidence of the crime.

Hmm well. I'm finding myself with a sudden disappointing aversion to Supernatural/Jared Padalecki since he and his wife have been buddying up to the Duck Dynasty asshats. I guess being okay with bigotry when you otherwise seem like a genuinely good person is my limit.

He turned into a real asshole sometime around 2012. From what I've heard, he was always a bit of a dick (like, just obnoxious to crew members, etc.) but until a few years ago he seemed like a good guy and a lovable dork and never really said or did anything shitty publicly. These days....not the case. He's an ass.

how is he a asshat just because he read a asshat's book? this is insane...

It's a case-by-case basis for me.

If they give money to harmful groups and want payment for their art. Or maybe if they advocate genocide.

If I'm not already a fan, finding out most of the usual stuff (rape, murder, complete raging asshole) will keep me from getting into it in the first place. Once I'm a fan, however, as long as it stays out of their fiction I'm surprisingly hard to shake off.

On a scale from Mister Rogers to Marion Zimmer Bradley, I'd have to say the point comes just above Orson Scott Card.

As much as I've enjoyed puppy-kicking over the last week of Hugo drama, there's only about five authors that I won't read for political reasons. (And honestly, it never comes up because I'm stacked up into next year with books on my wishlist.)

Eh, I don't think there's anything that would make me not read an author's work if I was really, really interested, but it might severely decrease my enjoyment of said work, especially if I can now see the views that made them so horrible in it.

But I have so little time to read these days that there's more than enough stuff that's excellent by people who aren't shitlords IRL that my plate is full and I'll probably never get around to reading the shitlord stuff.

Oh and if they're spending their earnings on something abhorrent (e.g. Card and his anti-gay campaign donations), I'd download anything I read and never give them a dime.

If they are an active asshole who seems to hurt or enable people being hurt. I won't buy their crap until they are deep in the cold, cold, Earth. For example, last year JK Rowling dumped herself into that category over the referendum. Until she is dead (or apologises and works to fix it for the next one in 20 years time) she is getting not a penny from me. She can be an asshole on someone else's money.

Wait what? How is JK Rowling hurting people with her money?

She funded, and pretty much provided the clinching of the vote due to her being the only person in the whole shebang with cast iron good PR at the time, the No campaign of the Scottish referendum. Scotland is shackled to England for another 20 years at least. We are now suffering the depredations of a UK conservative government that is aiming to emulate Scott Walker's Wisconsin and is actively driving its own citizens to suicide. If Rowling had either stayed out, or better yet came alongside the more compassionate Yes campaign then a lot of Scots would still be alive and Scotland would be free of The English Tories.

JK Rowling is on the same side as Iain Duncan Smith and David Cameron and so is everyone else on the No campaign. Evil to the bone as far as I am concerned now. She'll get not a penny from me!!