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⌈ Secret Post #3161 ⌋

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Comments

[blitzwing]

I don't like them either, but the ones I hate the most are coffeeshop AUs.

[(Anonymous)]

Sincere, curious question: why do coffee shop AUs bother you more than high school AUs?

(Also, I feel like people should differentiate more than they do between coffee shop AUs and bakery AUs because I feel like there's a significant difference in practice)

[blitzwing]

Working in a coffeeshop (with bakery) was one of the most miserable, unglamorous and disgusting experiences of my life. It paid garbage and employees were treated like dirt. Coffeeshop AUs are almost always highly unrealistic and makes it seem like it's all fun and good coffee smells and not customers screaming at you over too much (or not enough) foam on their latte. Love does not bloom in that environment . It is where hope goes to die.

The high school AUs I've read, at least had eating disorders and mean teachers and homophobic parents. They don't completely turn a miserable place into fluffy fairytale land.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay that's fair for you but, not all workplace experiences are alike. One workplace may have been horrible for you while another similar place of employment may have been wonderful and pleasant for another person.

I have a great workplace currently but I know someone who worked at a similar retail place and had an awful experience.

"They don't completely turn a miserable place into fluffy fairytale land."

Just because it was a miserable place for you doesn't mean it was the same for them.

[(Anonymous)]

Nine times out of ten though, a retail job is going to suck.

[(Anonymous)]

I had the exact opposite experience when I worked in a coffee shop. It was a lot of fun and most of the customers were great. 10 years on it's the job I have the most fond memories of, and I'd go back in a heartbeat if it paid better.

Those AUs aren't "highly unrealistic" just because you had a shitty experience. Not every coffee shop is like the one you worked at and not everyone who worked in a coffee shop had as miserable a time as you.

[blitzwing]

If it paid better.

So you agree that coffeeships generally exploit and underpay their workers? That they devalue them and degrade them? That doesn't sound like mocha-scented heaven to me.

[(Anonymous)]

DA. No they don't agree. They said the pay is relatively low. Not at all the same thing as your litany of terribleness.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Why did you ignore everything else I said?

And no, I DON'T agree because I LIKED it there. I did not feel devalued, degraded, or exploited. I had benefits, got bonuses from time to time, had no trouble taking time off when I needed it, had a good relationship with my supervisor. I got along well with my coworkers, well enough to still be friends with a few of them today, and we had a lot of fun while on the job. The ONLY thing I didn't like was the base hourly wage. But not getting paid enough didn't make me miserable, it made me sad because it meant I had to leave.

[(Anonymous)]

Well this was a dumb response.

[(Anonymous)]

That's a dumb as hell response

[blitzwing]

I live to please ;)

[cloud_riven]

Yeeesh I hate coffeeshop AUs and avoid them like the plague too, but that sucks about your job. Granted, the pay was shit, and being genuinely friendly and flirty all the time wears me down to cynicism when you have to force it, but the job itself was pretty rad.

It also helped that the customers fed my ego with compliments about my drinks and latte art, because I'm easy as shit. But I bet I would have ended up with a shit crowd of customers had I worked at a drive-thru cafe, or a mall one, or one that simply wasn't technically on the cusp of going out of business.

[(Anonymous)]

See, this makes perfect sense to me. Nothing counteracts the rose-colored romanticized view of a job more effectively than actually knowing firsthand what it's like.

[(Anonymous)]

Too bad what it's like differs from person to person.

[(Anonymous)]

This sounds a touch defensive, as if you're reacting to something I haven't said. Even if you have a positive job experience at [insert job title here] and enjoyed doing it, it's still far less likely that you'd romanticize the job because you know how the sausage is made, so to speak.

Not romanticizing a job =/= hating a job

[(Anonymous)]

"actually knowing firsthand what it's like."

FOR ONE PERSON. Blitzwing's experience isn't magically more right or valid than someone else's.

[(Anonymous)]

... and I didn't say it did, so your point is...?

[(Anonymous)]

Blitzwing said (or strongly implied) that it did.

[(Anonymous)]

1) Blitzwing was very clearly describing their own personal experience in the context of why coffeeshop AUs bothered them. You may disagree with how fun working in a coffeeshop is, of course, but your positive experiences don't negate Blitzwing's negative ones and vice versa.

2) But that's sort of a moot point because in case you hadn't noticed, I am not Blitzwing. The fact that you've got a big ol' bee in your bonnet about this opinion to the point where you feel the need to argue it with people who haven't expressed it suggests to me that you're spoiling for a fight and aren't interested in logic at all. Trying to drag other people into it isn't very nice, though.

[diet_poison]

There's a difference between a poorly run corporate coffee chain and a well-run mom and pop coffee shop. The latter can be a really nice place to work and it's what I'm more interested in seeing in AUs too honestly.

[(Anonymous)]

mostly because i don't view my favorite characters as the types to waste a lot of time hanging around a coffee shop every day

[(Anonymous)]

Just coming here to say this - how can people complain about HS AUs when coffeeshop AUs exist?

[(Anonymous)]

mte

i hate coffee and the smell of coffee and the coffee drinking ~culture~