[ SECRET POST #3161 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3161 ⌋

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Comments

Re: nayrt

[ariakas]

I think the big thing is that people are used to the hero somehow pulling off happy endings and miracles, when the point was always that the best miracle we could hope for was survival.

Nooooooooooooooooooooo. No. Nooooooooooooooo.

I absolutely adore bleak, no-one-wins endings. The Mist is one of my favourite endings of all time. If this had simply been a case of a well-executed, but less-than-ideal ending, I would have been absolutely thrilled about it.

No, the problem I had with it - and the problem absolutely everyone I've spoken to who didn't like the endings has had with it - is that it was: 1) poorly executed (it introduces a brand new character at the very end of the third act whose reveals/rationale are largely nonsensical), 2) ran counter to theme (you had just prior to this resolved the synthetic/organic issue between the geth and their synthetic creators, making it utterly redundant, yet Shep never brings this up with the Starbrat; has Shep end a series focused on team-building and an ensemble cast solo), 3) meant that ultimately your choices up until that point literally did not matter at all (which the developers had repeatedly lied about prior to this), etc.

Not one of these reasons is "well, it wasn't happy" - honestly I'm beginning to suspect, given how often this gets trotted out by people who disagree to write off the arguments of those who didn't like it without actually engaging those arguments, that either the aforementioned haven't given these arguments any thought, or have, and have no rebuttals, and so just resort to pat dismissals "baw you just wanted a miracle/happy times/poor baby/they were keeping is realz" instead :/