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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-08-31 06:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #3162 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3162 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Final Fantasy X]


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[The Silence of the Lambs]


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[Benedict Cumberbatch, Morpheus from Sandman]


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[Final Fantasy VI]


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[Assigned Male]


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[Rihanna - Bitch Better Have My Money video]



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[Brooklyn 99]













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[personal profile] wldcatsprstr_14 2015-09-01 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not interested in playing the 'my ancestors were slaves' game with anyone. That's not the point here. The point is that you don't get to decide what's an appropriate way for Black people to process their intergenerational trauma (which I don't even think Rihanna was considering when she made her video); just like you have the right NOT to create revenge art based upon your own cultural trauma, it's not your place to decide if we do, and your attempting to dictate that is completely out of line.

Furthermore, you certainly don't get to blame people who are STILL being abused/killed by anti-Blackness and white supremacy ON A GLOBAL SCALE for the fact that those things continue to exist and they remain the victims of them. Especially not using 'potential civil war' as your basis when the only civil war in U.S. history was fought over white people's right to continue keeping Black people as slaves. And certainly not when Black people in other countries are currently being abused and deported from their homes based entirely upon the color of their skin.

It is beyond fucked up and violent to insinuate that Black people are to blame for continued racial disharmony and anti-Black violence.
Edited 2015-09-01 04:12 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2015-09-01 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not the OP and I don't understand how I've insinuated such things? I've simply said: That is horrible what is happening in your country, and I greatly sympathize with you.

Another point I was making is that I don;t understand the merit of making something that will piss people off in an already politically charged atmosphere.

I'm very afraid of WWIII. It seems imminent.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-01 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
"piss people off in an already politically charged atmosphere"

>gt;>

"insinuate that Black people are to blame for continued racial disharmony and anti-Black violence."

(Anonymous) 2015-09-01 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
"insinuate that Black people are to blame for continued racial disharmony and anti-Black violence."

Why is this????

(Anonymous) 2015-09-01 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt If you don't understand why that quote of yours was insinuating that... well, think harder.
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[personal profile] wldcatsprstr_14 2015-09-01 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
In your initial response to me (assuming you're the first anon who replied to me), you accused the video of 'spreading hate' and asked if we wanted 'civil war.' That is blaming Black people for the current state of things. Black people aren't spreading hate; revenge fantasies, by nature, respond to violence that has already taken place. In other words, Black people wouldn't need them if they hadn't already been victimized.

Telling Black people that they can't respond to anti-Black and white supremacist abuse--not even in the art which has historically been a medium for Black people to vent their pain and process trauma, just because it will 'piss people off' is basically telling them to be quiet in the face of abuse or they're to blame if things don't get better. That may not be what you said but that's message being sent.

Imagine telling a woman who is being abused not to stand up to her abuser or talk about her pain to others because 'what if your abuser finds out and things get worse??' That's unthinkable.

Systems of abuse don't exist because victims talk about them; systems of abuse exists because abusers choose to abuse. Insinuating that Black people not make things worse by expressing themselves is so harmful, insensitive, and blames them for being abused.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-01 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for your reply!

Oh wow. I understand what you mean now. Or I hope I do.
I regret making my original comment now, if it has such an ugly meaning and impact.

TW marital abuse

(Anonymous) 2015-09-02 11:30 am (UTC)(link)
I know this isnt your main point but I just have to say something about this because its important.
"Imagine telling a woman who is being abused not to stand up to her abuser or talk about her pain to others because 'what if your abuser finds out and things get worse??' That's unthinkable."
My therapist told me to talk about my pain to someone I trusted not to ever tell what i said, and so I told the only friend I had in that country (I had moved to europe where my abusive husband lived because in his im innocent and charming phase he manipulated me to believe he was afraid of being on a plane and could not himself move to Canada, so I only had one friend after he isolated me away from the rest of the people I met and made sure I was unable to have anyone to speak to he just let me talk to this one person bc she was also a drug connect for him, anyways back on topic). She had been brutally abused as I was being and asked what happened one day when we met up to trade, as i had a black eye and strangulation marks that were very visible. I remembered my therapist had said to trust someone and talk about it, I remembered she had gone through this, and she had already figured it out and asked if he was abusing me weeks before. So I talked to her. I never imagined she would go home, mention to her partner that I was in a tough spot, without being specific, n then that partner ran to my husband as they were friends and he was ina fight with her wanted to punish her by hurting me or some shit. So my husband found out and beat the everlasting fuck out of me and then forced me to call her up and tell her i am a liar and made the story up for sympathy because i have mental disease and to convince her he had not done a thing. All because she said I was in a tough spot which could mean anything.

SO if youre going to encourage someone in a domestic violence situation to tell others and stand up for themselves, make sure s/he has a support system to run to first for in case the abuser DOES find out s/hes been talking about what they did and does try to punish them because it happens. a lot. and for me it was so bad that i never had a deeper convo with anyone for the following 8 years than 'how are you, im fine, ok bye' due to learning my lesson from this incident after that. You have to acknowledge this can and does happen and they should make sure they do those things in the safest way possible or there actually can be horrible consequences.

Re: TW marital abuse

[identity profile] bronzed.livejournal.com 2015-09-02 11:34 am (UTC)(link)
This comment is from me btw if you want to respond in some way because ill never see it here. I forgot to put the openid in, apologies.
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Re: TW marital abuse

[personal profile] wldcatsprstr_14 2015-09-08 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
I'm very sorry to hear this happened to you.

My point in my comment was to say that no abused person should ever be told by others how they should handle their pain; they should be free to process their trauma in the way that makes them feel safest and helps them heal. Whether that's speaking up or not speaking up.