[ SECRET POST #3168 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3168 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Criminal Minds]


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[Community]


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(Harry Potter, Yu-Gi-Oh)


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[JerryC]


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[J.K. Rowling/Harry Potter]


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[Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance]


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[Hatfields & McCoys]


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[Proof]


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[Brooklyn Nine Nine]


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11.
[Scarlett Johansson]


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[No Escape]











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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

That's too bad! One of my favourite things about Community was that all of the characters had incredibly annoying qualities, but I still thought they were all really likeable.

[(Anonymous)]

Same. I liked all the characters, and had no problem with any of the women. I think it took a short while, when the show first debuted, for me to fully warm up to Britta, but then I came to love her as much as I did everyone else. And I definitely miss Shirley.

Speaking in a general sense here...I feel sometimes like it's almost a rarity nowadays to like/love all of the characters on a TV show. I can honestly find something to like or love about all the characters on my favorite shows (unless they're villains/bad guys, and even then, most of them are "love to hate" sorts). It's hard for me to really fathom continuing to watch a show if there's certain characters I REALLY couldn't stand, and so the fact that there are fans who do that seems odd to me.

To each their own, of course, everyone's got their own reasons for and ways of watching TV. Just a personal observation I've noticed in various fandoms of late.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I can't stand hating characters, and it can definitely make me hate the shows they're in (especially if they're fan favourites or constantly treated positively in canon). Sometimes I'll try to force myself to be extra sympathetic towards characters who do things that bother me, solely because I don't want them to ruin the entire series for me, haha.

I think what helped was that Community did a pretty great job with calling them out whenever they were being assholes? Piers especially! It's a lot easier to accept their flaws when the show acknowledges that they exist.

[(Anonymous)]

For me it's just the fact that I've just always felt weird about spending so much energy on hating fictional characters who aren't meant to be bad, cruel people to begin with. I always just chalk most characters' bad moments up to, "Yeah, they've all got their flaws, just like real life people do" and that makes it easier for me to deal with those moments.

Granted, I do think there's some characters that, if I knew them in real life, I'd probably get very annoyed by them very fast (for instance, I like Frasier and Niles Crane (especially Niles). But if I actually worked at the coffee shop they frequented and had to deal with their extreme nitpickiness with their orders, or that sort of thing from other people similar to them, I could easily see that behavior grating on me in no time). But since they're fictional, I can more easily put that distance aside and enjoy them as characters, faults and all.

I definitely agree that the show calling the characters out when they do stupid and obnoxious stuff helps a lot, too, and I also agree that "Community" was pretty good with that. Heck, so was "Frasier", to refer back to my example. Martin constantly called his sons out on their snobby/pompous/picky behavior, and to their credit, they often did realize when they messed up, too.

[(Anonymous)]

I dunno. People watch shows for different reasons. I know that I've watched/enjoyed shows where there was a character I wasn't particularly fond of, but there were enough of the other things that I enjoyed where I was willing to tolerate the one character I didn't like.

I admit, though, on one occasion the character I didn't like eventually became the "writer's pet." When that happened, I just bailed on the show because life's too short to get irritated by television, y'know?

So I suppose I can see your point to an extent. A lot depends on how much a single character annoys you, and how big of a role they actually play. I also think that if you're involved in fandom, how much of a fanfavorite that character is can also skew your perception between "annoying, but I continue watching because there's a lot of other stuff I like" and "I'm gonna stop watching, free up some time, and take up knitting instead."

[(Anonymous)]

I never really liked Britta (I only watched the first four seasons), but I always considered her a very important part of the show and the study group. She was a valuable part of the whole, and the friendships and the show would have been diminished by her lack.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree with all of this.

But I think like the person above who kept waiting for Britta to stop shooting herself in the foot and start owning her shit, I was kind of waiting for Britta to start living up to her "grrrrl powr, RAWR!" rhetoric. Except, nope. Aside from season six, all of her major storylines were always tied up with helping or romancing the male characters.

I mean, I get that the whole point was that Britta could be a hypocritical slacktivist, which Dan Harmon has admited is more than in part based on himself, but it seems she never really broke out of that mindset for the entire run of the show.