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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-09-11 07:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #3173 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3173 ⌋

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[Detroit Metal City]


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(Gravity Falls, Criminal Minds)


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08. [SPOILERS for X-Files (new series)]



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09. [SPOILERS for Sly Cooper 4: Thieves In Time]



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[Chrissie Hynde of The Pretenders]


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13. [WARNING for rape and assault]

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(Anonymous) 2015-09-12 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'm definitely on the opposite side of the fence on this. When I learned that they were going to be split up for the revival, I was like, "Welp, there goes any smidgen of hope I had that this wasn't going to suck!"

The funny thing is, I do think that their relationship was handled badly in the show when they finally did get together. I don't think Chris Carter and Co. had any idea how to write rich, complex personal and interpersonal lives for their characters. They (CC especially) always seemed to have an incredibly simple and rather normative understanding of what two people being in love entailed. So when he finally "gave in" to the push for them to be together romantically, he did it incredibly badly, because that was all he understood romance to be. (Probably why he didn't want to put them together in the first place; because he simply couldn't conceive of their being in love as something that would expand on what they already were to each other. In the hands of a more emotionally intelligent writer it could so easily have been amazing and complex and awesome, but I think CC could only imagine romance/sex as something that would limit and dumb down their relationship.)

But even so, as far as I'm concerned, by S7, Scully and Mulder had essentially become pair-bonded (or whatever else you want to call two people who are going to stay together because they share too much and know each other too deeply and their shared passions and experiences have ultimately tied them together irrevocably). So for CC to think he can turn around now, and pretend like they were just another ill-matched couple who gave it a go but couldn't make it work and ultimately decided to split up? That just doesn't jibe with anything I hold to be true about them and their relationship. It's just so horribly pedestrian.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-12 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
I'm confused. I heard the new X-Files show was going to restart the series as if nothing from the original series ever happened. Is that incorrect? Is it actually a continuation of the original series with a big timeskip?

(Anonymous) 2015-09-12 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think it's a complete restart. I've been making zero effort to learn about the revival, because I can't imagine being anything but disappointed. So I suppose it's possible they're doing a complete restart. Even though that makes no sense and will never work.

I'd like to think CC and Co. aren't daft enough to believe that's a good idea, but, well, it is Chris Carter; he also thought running the Brady Bunch episode right after the episode where Scully gives up her baby was a solid decision.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-12 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
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I think it's a lot more likely that whoever said it was going to be a "restart" meant that Mulder and Scully were going to be back at the FBI solving cases like they did throughout most of the series (rather than living on the run, or in rural whereveritwas with Scully working as a surgeon and Mulder holed up in his nostalgia-cave).

(Anonymous) 2015-09-12 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
That's incorrect. It's not a reboot. It's a continuation from the original series.
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[personal profile] sabotabby 2015-09-12 02:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I was one of those fence-sitters with a side order of endgame and also shipping Mulder/Krycek. In the context of the show, I thought it'd be fine if they got together in the last episode but not before that.

Predictably, CC took the really well-written tension and chemistry and turned it into utter unwatchability. But then, I felt that about the entire show.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-12 03:33 pm (UTC)(link)
The thing is, kind of the whole reason that I dislike them being together romantically (in addition to how horribly it was done on the actual show) is because I think they were essentially pair-bonded in a non-romantic sense far, far earlier than that, and I think their fundamental existential connection would still exist regardless of whether they were fucking each other, not fucking each other, each fucking someone else, or whatever.

So, to me, it might not have worked out romantically, but it makes sense to me for them to still be as important to each other as they always were. Because it was never about romance or about sexual attraction.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-13 05:35 am (UTC)(link)
kind of the whole reason that I dislike them being together romantically is because I think they were essentially pair-bonded in a non-romantic sense

I can respect that. I have a person (family member) in my life who I consider something of a platonic soulmate. We're not twins, but our closeness and connection is something I've seen in the way some identical twins are with each other. So I do understand the depth of what "platonic pair-bond" can mean.

What I don't understand is the idea many people seem to have that adding sex to a profound relationship cheapens it. What a depressing view of sex. I don't think sex necessarily makes a relationship better, stronger, more profound, but nor do I think it necessarily makes a relationship weaker, cheaper, more trivial.

So yes, my Mulder and Scully are in love. My Mulder and Scully want to have sex with each other. That doesn't negate anything else about their relationship. It's in addition to everything else they share with each other, not instead of it.