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If rape was legitimately an issue for men, we would not live in a rape culture.

I don't think this is sound reasoning.

Like, if you look at Norse culture, rape was an acceptable thing to do to your enemies and slaves to shame them because it made them like women. "Real" men didn't get raped. This attitude is actually not far off today.

Patriarchy has "real" men, and those who get raped are women or like women. Male rape victims are ashamed, and made to feel ashamed. Patriarchy continues, rape culture continues, rape as something to do to women or those made to be like women, continues.

because it made them like women. hence why I say it's a womens issue.

If a man is made to feel like a woman, he is a woman?

No, if a man is reduced to the status of a woman by an act meant for women, then that act is a womans issue that the man has had to be lowered to accept.

If rape was legitimately an issue for men
Rape is an issue for men, because some men get raped.

Also, some women do rape. As a lesbian, I hear of it happening sometimes to other women, and I had a friend who was sexually abused by both male and female cousins when she was little.

This doesn't mean that rape culture doesn't exist or that most rape isn't perpetrated by men, to women.

...You really do sound like the "what's wrong with their men" troll.

If rape was legitimately an issue for men
I didn't say that?

I'm quoting the OP. I assumed you were them.

Are you not the OP?

"feel like a woman"

what does that even mean

i can tell you my woman feeling are different from how other woman feelings are

it's a meaningless phrase

It depends on your semantics of though. Some men are still victims of rape culture that men in general perpetrate and benefit from.

you know that being call to such senility, sarcastically on people's shame are THE POINT OF SHAMING. it just when issues being repetitive, it become less of an issued.

In between "what about the act?".

This is a little tangential, sorry. But was their intent with the slaves and enemies to make them 'like women', or to make them 'not real men'? Since 'not real men' doesn't automatically equal 'women' all the time. It might in this case. I'm not sure.

To the Norse, they were conceptually similar. Those who "received" it, were like women. It's kind of hard to explain their worldview of gender, but for example some men crossdressed to "receive" visions as seers and priests, and that was seen as a feminine passive act too.

ETA: In Euro cultures, gender wasn't always seen as this immutable embodied binary thing like it was today; iirc it was during the Renaissance with science that things started to shift. However, the symbolism of active penetrating male and passive receiving female remained (ETA2: common across many cultures!), and that active/passive is at the root of rape culture imo.

Edited 2015-09-13 23:54 (UTC)

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