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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-09-17 06:57 pm

[ SECRET POST #3179 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3179 ⌋

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Question for guys

(Anonymous) 2015-09-17 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I recently saw some very conservative lady claiming that when a woman yells at a man or just gets angry, he sees her as being a man, and therefore he loses any desire to not hit her just because she's a woman. The quote was something like "when you're angry and yelling, and your husband threatens you, he's actually pleading with you to calm down so he can keep himself from being violent and killing you/putting you in the hospital." Then some people suggested that it's okay to express displeasure to a man as long as you do it in a pouty and submissive way so he doesn't forget you're a woman.

This sounds extreme, but it isn't the first time I've seen something like this. Be submissive and do whatever your husband wants because don't you know he COULD beat the crap out of you whenever he's mad? And you should be thanking him constantly for not doing that.

As a kid, my father usually acted like I was annoying him just by speaking, and often seemed like he was just barely controlling himself from being violent (even recently, I went over to show him my shoes, not knowing he was in a bad mood and he just jabbed his elbow at me like a warning and sort of growled that I should know what I did to make him mad - but OF COURSE he wouldn't say what I actually did). It makes me afraid that everything I say is inherently meaningless and annoying, and even though I'm fairly quiet, I feel like I annoy everyone I speak to, to the point that I'm "pushing them too far" if I don't limit it and stay very agreeable. I feel like I can't be in a relationship, because I would have to walk on eggshells around them and would always fear them.

So anyway, are most guys like this? Do you want to punch out everyone who shows anger toward you, whether or not it's justified? Does it annoy you in the extreme when girls talk a lot or yell? Are you usually barely restraining yourself from hurting your girlfriend/wife if she's not a quiet, meek, person?

Re: Question for guys

(Anonymous) 2015-09-17 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
No, that's insane bullshits

Re: Question for guys

(Anonymous) 2015-09-17 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
No, that's not normal.

Re: Question for guys

(Anonymous) 2015-09-17 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
No. That's a really fucking unhealthy way to view both men and relationships. Most men are more than capable of not using violence no matter how angry they are.

Re: Question for guys

(Anonymous) 2015-09-17 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
is this some dougger shit? 'cause those people diddle their sisters

Re: Question for guys

(Anonymous) 2015-09-17 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Whoo, Racist!Anon strikes again!!!

Re: Question for guys

(Anonymous) 2015-09-18 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah this "one time one person said a thing, therefore are all people this thing?????? omg" thing is getting really obvious and repetitive

Re: Question for guys

(Anonymous) 2015-09-18 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Racist??

Re: Question for guys

(Anonymous) 2015-09-18 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
Racist? Where did they even mention race?

Re: Question for guys

(Anonymous) 2015-09-18 06:19 am (UTC)(link)
Racist!anon is the term that AYRT has decided to use for a hypothetical anon who tries to ask extremely controversial questions in a seemingly neutral

So-called because of the string of posts over a couple days that were basically "I'm not racist but [something extremely racist]"

Re: Question for guys

(Anonymous) 2015-09-17 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Nope, sounds like bullshit to me. The lady in question is making weak excuses for men who yell at their wives, like ooh, when he's screaming at me what he's REALLY doing is trying to calm me down so he doesn't have to kill me, what a hero!

Of course most guys aren't barely restrained homicidal maniacs beneath their surface. Do you really have to ask that?
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Re: Question for guys

[personal profile] dethtoll 2015-09-18 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
As a certified dude (filed and monitored) I think I can speak with some authority when I say that's fucking ridiculous. It paints men as being little more than barely controlled beasts who can't keep their hands (or dicks) to themselves and women should be as demure and unthreatening as possible. I refuse to accept that. That's the kind of logic that excuses domestic violence and rape. It's insulting and it's wrong.

Your dad sounds like a real shit, by the way.

Re: Question for guys

(Anonymous) 2015-09-18 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
+10000000

Re: Question for guys

(Anonymous) 2015-09-18 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
Well said. Completely agreed.
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Re: Question for guys

[personal profile] elialshadowpine 2015-09-18 01:24 pm (UTC)(link)
This. 100%.

Re: Question for guys

(Anonymous) 2015-09-18 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
it's total blame the victim bullshit and that woman should be ashamed of herself

Re: Question for guys

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2015-09-18 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
No, no, no, depends on the kind of yelling (*), no.

(*) "That's so cool!" is totally cool.

Re: Question for guys

(Anonymous) 2015-09-18 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
Not a guy but I know what you're saying. Some guys get really testy really fast for no apparent reason and they make me feel like just existing near them is enough to set them off. These are the types of men to avoid. (I avoid women who act this way as well because who wants to be around anyone like that?)

Also, it sounds like your dad has some real anger or mood issues and it's understandable how growing up around someone like that could make you leery and mistrustful.

Re: Question for guys

[personal profile] philippos42 2015-09-18 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
This is not normal behavior. Well, it shouldn't be.

It's not your fault if a man loses control.

And your dad is a piece of work, and maybe wants you out of his life for some reason.

Re: Question for guys

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2015-09-18 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
This is not a "men" question. This is a "people with anger problems" question.

And no, you should not be held responsible for someone's inability to appropriately deal with their own anger.