[ SECRET POST #3180 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3180 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I think that's fair, though I'd have to know more about this movie to say whether I agree in this particular case.

Too often, people act as though rape is the one aspect of human experience that has no narrative use or value, which is obvious nonsense. Are a lot of rape scenes tasteless, unnecessary, or badly handled? Sure. Does that mean no rape scenes are ever narratively useful or interesting? Of course not.

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OP

I skimmed your comment on refresh, and seriously thought you were a fan of the film. It's Royal Space Force: Wings of Honneamise.

In my reading of the film's intent, it's about the complexity of experiencing life as a human, and how nothing is all good or all bad, and beautiful things can come from terrible things (the film juxtaposes a country's first attempt at space travel with the war the space race is causing - or vice versa?) and how the same drive which sends the main character to space is making him aimless and selfish. He tries it on with a friend because he knows he can get away with it, and then she blames herself, and it's never resolved.

I love that.

I don't feel like the film condones that or even wants you to like the main character very much. Maybe that's the problem the older critics have. That they want to like Shiro. Well, you shouldn't. He's just a person.

[(Anonymous)]

Unlikeable main characters are very hard to pull off IMO, especially in film. People normally want to root for the protagonist.

Also, how do you know which cut includes which?

I am curious about this movie now.

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The rating, I would assume - I'm from the UK, and the cut version (twenty seconds shorter, I think) is a PG, and uncut is like a 15 I think? If it's the rerelease for disc media you should be fine, but on VHS I think only the Italians got it uncut. If in doubt, Google the one you're thinking of watching.

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AYRT

Holy shit, I am SO embarrassed I didn't recognize that! I LOVE that movie, but I haven't rewatched it in a very long time since I lost my old copy.

And yes, that's totally a fair read on the subplot. (There's also that whole weird religious angle that makes no sense.) I think that's what I like about that movie too, apart from the visuals. It's about how, in the face of our being pointless, stupid creatures who do dumb things for crazy reasons and crazy things for dumb reasons, we can still achieve extraordinary greatness and beauty.

[(Anonymous)]

I like your interpretation but I do think there's kind of an inescapable tonal problem. The rape scene just doesn't fit with the, like, transcendent launch scene. It's not an insurmountable problem but there is an aesthetic tension to it, in my eyes.

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed. It seems like it's from a different movie. It's played well (I'm glad he doesn't complete the act) but it's jarring to me as a Westerner. I've been told that this makes more sense in Japan and other Eastern countries but I can't wrap my head around that.

The movie is still brilliant, but I totally chuck that scene out of my head or mentally replace it with a sudden love scene that's consensual and completely spontaneous.