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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-09-19 03:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #3181 ]


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Eurpoeans

(Anonymous) 2015-09-19 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Why is fandom secrets so racist against Europeans? They're often described as a monolith, and people generalise about their behaviour and culture in a way that certainly wouldn't fly with some other continents. What gives?

Re: Eurpoeans

(Anonymous) 2015-09-19 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Shhhhhh. Go to sleep anon.

Re: Eurpoeans

(Anonymous) 2015-09-19 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Dude, Africa and Asia are totally monoliths too, it's not exclusive to Europe.

Re: Eurpoeans

(Anonymous) 2015-09-19 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
As is America. Like...they all are. Because all continents/countries/areas are huge.

Re: Eurpoeans

(Anonymous) 2015-09-20 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
It may not be quite as relevant in the states because I believe the states themselves have more dominion than the nation (anything not specifically stated to be a national issue in the constitution is a state issue? I think?) but in Canada, despite our ridiculously huge land mass, it is not inappropriate to describe us mostly as monolithic. Most of our history is only a few hundred years old (excepting the Natives, and I argue against people defining them as a monolith for the same reasons as Europe), the old immigration policies mean we have a similar mix of ethnicities most places (Asian immigrants being an exception, being more common out west), and our media and pop culture is very centralized. I have lived in the west, the center, and am now in the east. There are some local idiosyncrasies, but for the most part it's all very generically Canadian.

That got ridiculously wordy. My point was that size is not a good indicator of whether or not something can reasonably be described monolithically. In some cases, I would argue the USA could, because they have the same national language, government, system of government, and passports for all corners. Not so in Europe. It's situational, true, and describing anything as a whole will necessarily gloss over some parts, but in general? Describing the USA as a whole is not near as incorrect as describing Europe that way.

tl;dr Describing almost anything as a monolith is necessarily not quite correct, but the scale of how incorrect is so hugely different for the USA vs. Europe that it's ridiculous to compare the two.

Example: Every American passport is written in English. Only in the UK (and possibly Ireland? I really don't know) do Europeans have English passports.
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Re: Eurpoeans

[personal profile] kitelovesyou 2015-09-20 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
Ireland's passport is written in both English and Irish, iirc.

Re: Eurpoeans

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Re: Eurpoeans

(Anonymous) 2015-09-19 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Out of curiosity, what is the European race?

Re: Eurpoeans

(Anonymous) 2015-09-19 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
That's the point. There isn't one, but a lot of F!S members speak as if it's one giant country.

Re: Eurpoeans

(Anonymous) 2015-09-19 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I see. Out of curiosity, what does country have to do with race?

Re: Eurpoeans

(Anonymous) 2015-09-19 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Out of curiosity, do you genuinely not understand the point or are you just trying to make yourself look clever by nitpicking?

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Re: Eurpoeans

(Anonymous) 2015-09-19 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
>racist
>against europeans

lol

Re: Eurpoeans

(Anonymous) 2015-09-19 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
No other country/continent has ever been referred to as a monolith, except for:

-Africa
-Asia
-North America
-South America
-Australia
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Re: Eurpoeans

[personal profile] making_excuses 2015-09-19 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
F!S is prejudiced against Europeans? I wasn't aware of this, could you maybe give me some examples?
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Re: Eurpoeans

[personal profile] forgottenjester 2015-09-19 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
That one time. With the one thing. Where the stuff happened.
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Re: Eurpoeans

[personal profile] making_excuses 2015-09-19 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh that time! The time with the thing? And the incident? Where someone said the words?
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Re: Eurpoeans

[personal profile] forgottenjester 2015-09-19 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes! Exactly. You get me. And then the people did the things. And the other stuff happened. And everyone was there.

Re: Eurpoeans

(Anonymous) 2015-09-19 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Why is FS so racist against non-humans?

Have you ever noticed that only humans ever post here?

Fucking racists.
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Re: Eurpoeans

[personal profile] forgottenjester 2015-09-19 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I've noticed. As the only Genie here I can honestly say you guys suck. You guys got something against magicals?

Re: Eurpoeans

(Anonymous) 2015-09-19 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
some of us are bots

Re: Eurpoeans

(Anonymous) 2015-09-20 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
There's a potato that posts here. They're pretty cool.
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Re: Eurpoeans

[personal profile] kitelovesyou 2015-09-20 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
Scuse you I'm otherkin.
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Re: Eurpoeans

[personal profile] kitelovesyou 2015-09-19 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
It's the last acceptable prejudice here, isn't it?
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Re: Eurpoeans

[personal profile] kitelovesyou 2015-09-19 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
* oh god, Poe's Law, that was sarcasm

Re: Eurpoeans

(Anonymous) 2015-09-19 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL white tears says what???

Re: Eurpoeans

(Anonymous) 2015-09-19 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, and you spelled Europeans wrong, too, idiot.