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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-09-21 07:11 pm

[ SECRET POST #3183 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3183 ⌋

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Why has genderbending been getting backlash on tumblr lately?

(Anonymous) 2015-09-22 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
I don't get it.

(in b4 ebil sjws ruin everything)

Re: Why has genderbending been getting backlash on tumblr lately?

(Anonymous) 2015-09-22 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know but it makes me sad.

Genderbending is the primary way I enjoy het relationships.

Re: Why has genderbending been getting backlash on tumblr lately?

(Anonymous) 2015-09-22 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry to say, evil SJW but...that is it.

Tumblr is now saying genderbending is transphobic...genderspecialphobic, because OMG JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE A MALE BODY DOESN"T MEAN THEY IDENTIFY AS MALE!

So, they are basically mad is is called genderbending instead of sexbending.
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Re: Why has genderbending been getting backlash on tumblr lately?

[personal profile] a_potato 2015-09-22 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
I think they'd be mad if it were called sexbending, as well, because the distinction between sex and gender seems to have vanished over the past few years.

Re: Why has genderbending been getting backlash on tumblr lately?

(Anonymous) 2015-09-22 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
But... genderbending is correct then? They are being drawn as a different gender from their canon version. Unless they're naked in the picture you can't even say for sure what their sex is. FFS TUMBLR.

Re: Why has genderbending been getting backlash on tumblr lately?

(Anonymous) 2015-09-22 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Nope. Becuase who are you to say that Dean Winchester doesn't identify as a woman? And by drawing him wiht a female body you are saying that only FEMALE BODIED PEOPLE CAN BE WOMEN! YOU TRANSOPHOBIC ASSHOLE!
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Re: Why has genderbending been getting backlash on tumblr lately?

[personal profile] forgottenjester 2015-09-22 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
There's always been people who don't like it. The reasons change but the overall sentiment of "I don't like it so don't do it" stays the same. Ignore it. It'll come back in a bit and you can ignore it then too.

Re: Why has genderbending been getting backlash on tumblr lately?

(Anonymous) 2015-09-22 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Tumblr is a circlejerk infinity loop. Pay no attention, and carry on.

Re: Why has genderbending been getting backlash on tumblr lately?

(Anonymous) 2015-09-22 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Because people like having things to complain about, and all the wankers were getting tired of rehashing the same stale old wank over the social justice implications of shipping.
dahli: winnar @ lj (Default)

Re: Why has genderbending been getting backlash on tumblr lately?

[personal profile] dahli 2015-09-22 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
Here's one explaining why it's bad, but their layout is an eyesore, so to summarize:

Because it's homophobic/transphobic and it fetishises trans bodies and that's cissexist. And also because it doesn't correctly represent trans/nonbinary/genderfluid/intersex people.

Also casual transphobia

Genderbending implies that the characters are cisgender by default

Sorry I'm not linking the the OP, but some of the posts where deleted from the original poster.
Edited (html fail) 2015-09-22 00:24 (UTC)

Re: Why has genderbending been getting backlash on tumblr lately?

(Anonymous) 2015-09-22 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
But...there is NOTHING trans about it at all. I've never read a fic labeled as genderbend that is about someone transitioning. It is always just a male/female character who is now in a female/male body.

And I get that tumblr is all, WOMEN CAN HAVE PENISES TOO! But...that isn't how the real world works. Sorry.
dahli: winnar @ lj (Default)

Re: Why has genderbending been getting backlash on tumblr lately?

[personal profile] dahli 2015-09-22 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yeah, I definitely agree with you. Sorry, should have clarified that in my original post. Genderbending is a fantasy mostly done for fun and sometimes to explore how a character would react to being turned into the opposite gender (or because you enjoy messing with a character and want to see them struggle with their new body).

Also tumblr takes itself too seriously.

Re: Why has genderbending been getting backlash on tumblr lately?

(Anonymous) 2015-09-22 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
or because you enjoy messing with a character and want to see them struggle with [insert issue here]

NAYRT

This, in a nutshell, is the driving force behind all of my various fanfics. Messing with the character (but only because I love them).
dahli: winnar @ lj (wwwwwwww)

Re: Why has genderbending been getting backlash on tumblr lately?

[personal profile] dahli 2015-09-22 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
That is a good way to love them, to mess them up and watch them struggle.

I like you, anon.

Re: Why has genderbending been getting backlash on tumblr lately?

(Anonymous) 2015-09-22 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Cisgender by default? What? No, they are cisgender because 99% of characters are cisgender. Like, canon that is what they are. Sure, Tony Stark may secretly be trans but nothing in canon supports that. And considering how rare being trans is, it is safe to assume most characters are cisgendered.
dahli: winnar @ lj (oh you sweet summer child)

Re: Why has genderbending been getting backlash on tumblr lately?

[personal profile] dahli 2015-09-22 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Like I said up there, I should have clarified that I don't agree with these posts and just googled them and dug what came up.

But yeah, it's just tumblr logic at work. I definitely don't agree with their points because they are ridiculous at most and just trying to find an excuse to be offended.
Edited 2015-09-22 00:58 (UTC)
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Re: Why has genderbending been getting backlash on tumblr lately?

[personal profile] caerbannog 2015-09-22 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
I saw a nice post once that broke down the history of gender bending a origins and how it has changed over time. Wouldn't know how to refund that post again as it was a reply to someone being angry over gender bends I think.
dahli: winnar @ lj (and the wind will carry us)

Re: Why has genderbending been getting backlash on tumblr lately?

[personal profile] dahli 2015-09-22 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
Aaww that's a shame. Would have loved to read that.
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Re: Why has genderbending been getting backlash on tumblr lately?

[personal profile] caerbannog 2015-09-22 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
I'll have a look around when I get home, pretty sure I liked or reblogged it but it was awhile ago. But it was quite ah interesting post thread I think.
dahli: winnar @ lj (Default)

Re: Why has genderbending been getting backlash on tumblr lately?

[personal profile] dahli 2015-09-22 06:17 am (UTC)(link)
Awww thank you! :D

And this are times I miss livejournal's archive system. :P

I was going to make a secret about this...

(Anonymous) 2015-09-22 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for reminding me. I'll just post my opinion here though, since I don't care about it enough to make a secret. But yeah, honestly, I'm a bit glad that genderbending is getting a backlash, since it is encouraging people to make trans interpretations of characters instead - i.e. instead of making a genderbent Captain Kirk in-universe, that is, a genderbent Captain Kirk among a cast where everyone else is the same gender as the original series, people are leaning towards aus where Captain Kirk is a transwoman, which I find much more investing and interesting.

I don't mind genderbends either way, but personally, I like to see trans characters, so, yay.

Re: I was going to make a secret about this...

(Anonymous) 2015-09-22 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
Why do you think that trans headcanons have anything to do with genderbending? I would think that backlash would make MORE trans headcanons.

Re: I was going to make a secret about this...

(Anonymous) 2015-09-22 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
I'm a bit confused - what I am saying is that yes, there are more trans headcanons!

Re: Why has genderbending been getting backlash on tumblr lately?

(Anonymous) 2015-09-22 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
well after seeing 15 year old trans allies shouting down 30+ transsexuals over this, I think they don't know what the hell they are saying.
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Re: Why has genderbending been getting backlash on tumblr lately?

[personal profile] otakugal15 2015-09-22 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
They see it as making trans issues to be a joke. Or it's appropriating them.

Rule 63 is just something silly and fun, nothing more than that. Tumblr needs to get it's collectives panties out of it's sandy wads.