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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-09-26 03:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #3188 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3188 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-09-26 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm so confused about this secret. Is OP the only one allowed to multiship?
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[personal profile] elaminator 2015-09-26 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Yea, maybe I'm just tired but I feel like my brain broke reading this secret, lol. (I am not saying the secret is badly worded, though. It might be fine for others.)

They might just be saying they don't like when authors multi-ship their favorite characters. I was kind of wondering if they meant "Don't include a/b and a/c in the same fic', but I'm guessing it's more them liking when authors lean towards a certain pairing and don't multi-ship the characters involved in that pairing at all. (Maybe OP thinks the authors are more 'passionate' if they don't multi-ship? IDK.)
Edited 2015-09-26 21:23 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2015-09-26 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
You're right. Thank you for putting it into words.
-op
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[personal profile] elaminator 2015-09-26 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
You're right.

Oh, that's a first! Haha, good!

To an extent I can see where you're coming from, in that when people are super invested in one particular pairing, they can become pretty obsessed with it and put all their energy into it.

Not sure if that makes any sense, but if the author focuses on fewer characters and pairings then they have more time to devote to getting them right.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-26 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
tbh, I'm not sure why. It's not about time and energy, I don't think. More about passion and being serious about the ship. It just bugs me sometimes.
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[personal profile] quantumreality 2015-09-26 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I can't parse it too well either. Does the OP dislike a/b and a/c in the same fic (which would be OT3-ish I guess) or are they complaining about inconsistency in the frequency of a/b fic vs a/c fic by the same author?

Or...? o.O
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[personal profile] elaminator 2015-09-26 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
From what I gather OP isn't talking about both pairings in the same fic, they aren't fond of when authors multi-ship. Maybe they like authors to be dedicated to one specific pairing, so they know the author will spend lots of time perfecting it?

(Anonymous) 2015-09-27 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh. I hate a/b + a/c being passed off as ot3. It's a fucking harem, not a threesome.
ot3 means all character loving each other equally.

So often people say they ship an ot3 but it's just two guys fighting over the same girl (male-->female<--male) but then they get grossed out if the two guys are into each other.

I have seen this faux polyshipping so many times it has permanently spurned me from from anyone who says they are into ot3, ot4, ot5. They never do it properly. It's always fucking hetero haremshit.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-27 03:52 pm (UTC)(link)
And I spurn anyone who says they're into OT3's just because it's almost always for the porn and threesomes.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-27 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
I think real life translates to fandom for some people. A lot of people are monogamous and once they have a significant other it's considered bad to cheat on them with someone else.

Maybe OP thinks the authors are more 'passionate' if they don't multi-ship? IDK

Isn't that true though? Authors who are single ship are more passionate and usually attached to the ship because they like the chemistry and dynamics enough to want to further explore them.

Multishippers don't care about chemistry or development, they'll ship anyone for the shallowest reasons and are not really attached to any particular dynamic. It's perfectly understandable that if someone is a multishipper their love of a ship is not that deep. There is nothing wrong with multishipping if that is fun for you, but they bounce around so much between ships that it is hard to convince a singleshipper they could write one ship and do it justice.

One of my favorite fanfic authors use to be a hardcore singleshipper and wrote really great fics. Then she started getting into other ships and they began permeating into her "otp" fics and they became all about angst and adultery. I'm wary to read any more of her fics because even if it's labeled one way, I just know her other "otps" are gonna be shoved in there too for drama. Most recent example is she labeled her fic as one ship but half the story and until now is about her other "otp". This is why I don't trust multishippers.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-27 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
I think real life translates to fandom for some people.

Obviously you, if you're projecting that hard onto multishippers.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-27 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
Multishippers don't care about chemistry or development, they'll ship anyone for the shallowest reasons and are not really attached to any particular dynamic.

EXCUSE YOU. Please don't lump your misconceptions on multi-shippers just because you don't understand it. Any good writer cares a great deal about chemistry and development, regardless of how many ships they write. And yes, actually, they can love opposing ships. I love different ships for different reasons because I like to explore different character and relationship dynamics.
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[personal profile] ketita 2015-09-27 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but as somebody who does exactly what OP hates... yeah, maybe each ship has "less" passion devoted to it, but that doesn't mean I invest less in each fic.
And on the flipside, it means that I devote more energy to perfecting the characterization of the character I multiship, because I expand on his characterization more than if I was just sticking to one ship with him, I think.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-27 05:06 am (UTC)(link)
"Multishippers don't care about chemistry or development, they'll ship anyone for the shallowest reasons and are not really attached to any particular dynamic."

I think that depends.

Some serial multishippers seem to ship everyone with everyone and sometimes don't even stick with parings but jump straight to OT5/6/7/8/9/10 just because.

That kind of multishippers are into it just for the hot, and chemistry, characterization or development is irrelevant when they can just write hot A/B, C/D, B/D, B/C, A/C and A/B/C/D. And then they get tired and move to another ships or fandom to do the same thing.

But some others just... don't get attached to just one ship, yet they're more selective with what they ship. Those multishippers can write good stuff too, though I think that most great fics of many ships are written by OTPers.

(Anonymous) 2015-09-27 03:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Multishippers don't care about chemistry or development, they'll ship anyone for the shallowest reasons and are not really attached to any particular dynamic.

I wholeheartedly agree. I find that it's usually for the porn, period.
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[personal profile] elaminator 2015-09-27 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
A lot of people are monogamous and once they have a significant other it's considered bad to cheat on them with someone else.

Ah...I'm a monogamous kind of girl too, but this is fiction. It's a lot different than actually cheating in a real life relationship.

Multishippers don't care about chemistry or development, they'll ship anyone for the shallowest reasons and are not really attached to any particular dynamic.

That might be the case for some people (and I hope those people enjoy themselves as well; there's no right or wrong way to do fandom) but I don't believe that all multi-shippers feel that way. Some multi-shippers might read any or all ships containing a particular character, and some might only read two. I don't feel comfortable assuming that much about people's tastes.

This is why I don't trust multishippers.

I'm sorry you had a bad experience and if I were in your situation I would be disappointed as well, but you shouldn't blame all multi-shippers for the actions of one.
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[personal profile] beverlykatz 2015-09-28 05:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I almost didn't comment because "multishipping is like cheating on your partner!!!" is hilarious enough on its own. But what the hell, I'll bite. I'd actually say that your charge of multishippers being shallow and not appreciating character dynamics is more applicable to single shippers, if we're being silly about this. I mean, if I can enjoy a variety of character combinations, doesn't that mean I have a deeper appreciation of chemistry and dynamics as broad concepts, instead of pinning myself to one single relationship? Clearly I am The Best Shipper because I like Hannibal/Will and Hannibal/Jack.

Of course that's not true, because shipping is not real life and this is all about fictional characters. But the shippers are real people, and while calling multishippers shallow and poor writers isn't some great injustice, it's ridiculous and needlessly rude.

tl;dr: chill

(Anonymous) 2015-09-26 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't multiship when I write as I have my preferred ships but I'll read many ships with my fave characters.
I need to work on my secret making skills, this's just embarrassing.
-op