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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-09-28 07:13 pm

[ SECRET POST #3190 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3190 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Angry Birds (Movie)]


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[The Great British Bake Off (series 6)]


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[Jennifer Nettles, Ronnie Dunn]


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[Free!]


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[Hannibal]


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[Jennifer Lien, who played Kes in Star Trek: Voyager]


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[BBC Robin Hood]


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(Ancillary Justice by Ann Leckie/The Mirror Empire by Kameron Hurley)












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kaijinscendre: (Default)

Re: Holy Fucking Shit, Donald Trump

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2015-09-29 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
He isn't going to be the Republican front runner. I am 100% certain the Republicans are using him to make the rest of them look really sane in comparison. Sure, Jeb Bush has some shitty opinions but he isn't as bad as Donald Trump.
dethtoll: (Default)

Re: Holy Fucking Shit, Donald Trump

[personal profile] dethtoll 2015-09-29 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Remember when they were so mad at him for running because he was stealing all their voters? I think now as his rhetoric has gone into the doucheosphere they're realizing the potential to boost their own perceived electability.
diet_poison: (Default)

Re: Holy Fucking Shit, Donald Trump

[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-09-29 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
...oh my gosh, I think you're right

Re: Holy Fucking Shit, Donald Trump

(Anonymous) 2015-09-29 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
This.

As an outsider looking at American politics, this is the only reasonable explanation I can come up with. Donald Trump is being used to make the rest of the Republican candidates look sane and electable.

I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but that's honestly the only thing I can come up with. The alternative is too terrifying to contemplate, considering the amount of power and influence America has over other countries in the world, including my own.

(FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, USE YOUR POWER WISELY.)
kaijinscendre: (Default)

Re: Holy Fucking Shit, Donald Trump

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2015-09-29 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
And while "polls" have Donald Trump in the lead, those polls are only polling people who would vote on those kinds of idiotic things. That does not equate to people who actually vote.

Re: Holy Fucking Shit, Donald Trump

(Anonymous) 2015-09-29 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
Polls are probably accurate in regards to the opinions of registered Republican voters in September 2015

They just have almost no actual predictive power

Re: Holy Fucking Shit, Donald Trump

(Anonymous) 2015-09-29 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
I have two problems with this theory.

One, he's not really making them look good - he's making them look like shitty, weak politicians. And this is especially true of Jeb.

Two, if this were the case, they would be holding their shit together a lot better, and they wouldn't be doing anything that would fuck them up later. And this is not the case. Most of the candidates have been panicking (with one exception that I'll get to later). And Trump has done actual, real harm to their election chances because he has forced them to shift their positions on issues, especially immigration, and forced them to make themselves unelectable.

The one exception to this is Ted Cruz - who actually HAS made an alliance with Trump, at least a tacit one if not an explicit one. And as a result, he's behaved dramatically different to the other candidates in regards to Trump, and not attacked him dramatically, and things like that. Which to me really proves the point. We have an example of someone who is actually doing what you're describing here, and he's acting totally differently from any of the other candidates. And also, frankly, the fact that Ted Cruz is doing something is in and of itself evidence that the Republican establishment is not doing so.
kaijinscendre: (Default)

Re: Holy Fucking Shit, Donald Trump

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2015-09-29 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
But the thing is that no one hears about anyone else. They are all focusing on crazy Trump. Donald Trump has been trending in my FB news feed for weeks but I've seen nothing about the other candidates. Which would make you think, See he has all that support! But the Republicans are not going to choose him. They just aren't.

In regards to Ted Cruz, why shouldn't he make an "alliance". It doesn't hurt him because he still looks like the sane one in the relationship. And when Trump gets ousted, he gets a boost from the Trump supporters who see him as an ally.

Re: Holy Fucking Shit, Donald Trump

(Anonymous) 2015-09-29 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
But the thing is that no one hears about anyone else. They are all focusing on crazy Trump. Donald Trump has been trending in my FB news feed for weeks but I've seen nothing about the other candidates.

Sure, but in terms of policy and speeches, even if no one pays attention now, it'll get picked up during the general, and that will hurt them. As will being associated with Trump at all, as a party. That's not great for them.

In regards to Ted Cruz, why shouldn't he make an "alliance". It doesn't hurt him because he still looks like the sane one in the relationship. And when Trump gets ousted, he gets a boost from the Trump supporters who see him as an ally.

Oh, no, it makes an incredible amount of sense for Ted Cruz.

My point is just that we know what it looks like when someone is trying to use Trump for their own purposes, and it looks nothing like what most of the candidates are doing.
abharding: (Default)

Re: Holy Fucking Shit, Donald Trump

[personal profile] abharding 2015-09-29 05:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I've thought that from the start of this whole mess. He is there to make Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio look sane. But what scares me is so many people seem to be taking him seriously.

I also think that it part of the anti-incumbency thing going on right now. The three top Republican contenders are all newcomers to the politics and for a while Trump was the best known of them. Name recognition is still a big advantage at this stage in the race