[ SECRET POST #3196 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3196 ⌋

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[Hannibal]


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03. [repeat, Black Mirror]


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[World of Warcraft, Mists of Pandaria]


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[Sailor Moon]


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[Silicon Valley]


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[Time Masters: Vanishing Point and Aladdin]


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[Floraverse]


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Comments

Re: Problematic Opinion Thread

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt - Serious reply now.

I get what you're getting at, I do. But you know, I don't want the "help" of people who feel it's necessary to make sure fat people only feel good about their size if they're the right kind of fat people. Maybe the movement you're referring to is wrongheaded in their approach. Maybe they do need to focus more on the actual health aspect rather than the general "all fat is okay you guys" message.

But... you know...? Meh. Wrong as they may be, it still feels like the impetus behind the criticism still feels a lot like making sure the fatties don't get too uppity. I don't really care for that. There are fat, unhealthy people in this world who are in denial about their weight and overall health. There are skinny, unhealthy people in this world who are in denial about their overall health, too. But the internet is mostly concerned with only policing the fat people and that feels shitty to me.

They'll figure it out on their own time. Or not.

Re: Problematic Opinion Thread

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Anti-HAES is just as shitty as HAES sometimes, I agree with you on that. There's no need to shame fat people. There's no focus on underweight people even if they count as a "size". It's broken in general.

My issue that while "fatties lol" is awful and offensive, convincing people that they're fine ignoring their doctors is beyond awful and dangerous and gets practically into anti-science like anti-vaxxers. There's a large part of HAES that says the system is biased and to disregard medical professionals' advice even if they warn you you're in danger. I don't know why everyone is on board the train to stop anti-vaxxers from spreading their message, but not on board the train to stop this other anti-science thing. It's not about right kinds of fat people or wrong kinds of fat people, it's about listening to doctors and generally proven science.

For me, anyway. I'm sure there are many anti-HAES people who just hate fat people though, and that's the wrong approach imo.

Re: Problematic Opinion Thread

[(Anonymous)]

OP

Yes, all of this. I don't give a shit if someone wants to be fat; their body, their choice, yadda yadda yadda. But don't fucking spread misinformation that can negatively impact OTHER PEOPLE'S health.

Re: Problematic Opinion Thread

[(Anonymous)]

And as I said above, I agree that what you describe is bad. What I don't think is helpful, however, is the focus on the idea that if you are morbidly obese, you are delusional to think that this could be healthy. You truly want to change peoples' minds? It's the same for anti-vaxx. You don't change peoples' minds and encourage them to approach the issue scientifically with capslock rage. For example: YOU CANNOT BE AN ANTI-VAXXER AND LOVE YOUR CHILDREN.

Because that's divisive. It doesn't encourage people to think logically and do some real research, it just shows them your contempt and puts people on the defensive, rightly or wrongly. I also think it'd be helpful if people who wanted to combat the bad messages HAES spreads could focus exclusively on the misinformation and maybe not make a point of only targeting the morbidly obese.