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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-10-08 06:31 pm

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y johnny cant read

(Anonymous) 2015-10-08 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I teach, and so many education-related twitter accounts, including that of my school district, have started using netspeak. Am I being a snob, or is that pretty unprofessional especially considering they're supposed to be educators?

I also don't know if they're serious or if they're just trying to look "with it." If it's the latter, stop. Please.

Re: y johnny cant read

(Anonymous) 2015-10-08 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think it's intrinsically unprofessional as long as they're not only using twitter speak. It is a valid means of expressing oneself. Language is a tool for communication, and this is one way of using that tool.

Re: y johnny cant read

(Anonymous) 2015-10-08 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, they're serious. That's how people talk online now. I don't like it either, but it is what it is.

Re: y johnny cant read

(Anonymous) 2015-10-08 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's a combination of factors:

1) The prevalent use of cell phones over desktops, which makes it more likely people will adapt easier ways of shorthand typing.

2) The belief that communicating in proper English is no longer necessary even at professional levels.

3) The fact that even at professional levels, a lot of peoples' spelling/grammar, etc. skills are still somewhat lacking in the first place.

4) Everybody else is doing it.

Re: y johnny cant read

(Anonymous) 2015-10-08 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Language evolves. And is used differently in different contexts. The "Queen's English", like with other language standardisation, might be great for uniting a nation and indicating class markers, but it's still a convenient fiction.

The "with it" is generally pretty embarrassing though, if it comes across as clunky. Can't stand it when Christians do it.

Though a lot of teachers are pretty young themselves, and the ones likely to volunteer for the social media tasks, especially.

Re: y johnny cant read

(Anonymous) 2015-10-08 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
No, I'd probably cringe at it, too. I know Twitter only allows for a certain amount of characters, but still...I would think educators would find a way to get their message out while still making it look professional. To say nothing of the fact that students will have a harder time taking educators seriously when they try and teach them proper writing skills ("If you can use netspeak, why can't I?").

And if they're trying to appear hip and cool? Then, yeah, that's always going to be bad no matter WHAT it is they're doing.

Re: y johnny cant read

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2015-10-09 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Proper writing skills include using the right mode, style, and voice for the medium, context, and audience.

But oh no, how dare we permit a shorthand!

Re: y johnny cant read

(Anonymous) 2015-10-09 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
I have nothing wrong with shorthand techniques, and depending on the situation it could well be okay for teachers to use a bit of netspeak to communicate their message.

I just think on a general basis, it would look a little odd seeing educators type like that. But that's just me *Shrugs*.

Re: y johnny cant read

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2015-10-09 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
It's a 140-character epistolary mode, something we've had since people tried to cram coded messages into the gaps of cuniform receipts for sheep.

Re: y johnny cant read

(Anonymous) 2015-10-09 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
I have taught English for a very long time, and I have seen educators using the latest 'speak' for years. When a new shorthand becomes acceptable, many educators will allow students to use it in essays, emails, etc. I'm fully aware that language is malleable, but I do think that promoting a shorthand that isn't professional is dangerous. As someone else here mentioned, "If you can use netspeak, why can't I?", and that becomes a valid question. The reason that I don't allow students to use netspeak in their academic work is to prepare them for other courses in college and in professional settings. Having said that, I think language is changing so quickly that writing in everyday life will be vastly different in the next 10-20 years.

Re: y johnny cant read

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2015-10-09 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
As someone else here mentioned, "If you can use netspeak, why can't I?", and that becomes a valid question.

You don't need a slippery slope. Just the house style guide and a red pen. It's no more a valid question now than it was in the 1990s when everyone and their uncle was adopting PowerPoint. Now *that* was a crime against the English language.