[ SECRET POST #3201 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3201 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.
[Scream TV series]


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02.
[Erasure/Andy Bell]


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04.
[AmazingPhil and Danisnotonfire]


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05. [SPOILERS for Man from UNCLE]



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06. [WARNING for rape, war]



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07. [WARNING for rape]



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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Unpopular opinion, but I don't think you can slap modern values re: rape onto historical societies. They didn't even think about it the way we do now. Even the idea that a husband can rape his wife is pretty modern.

You have to look at these sorts of characters and situations through a different lens. That's not to make rape OK, but you just have to see it in context. And that goes for a lot of things that we consider unsavory now which were common back in the day. I don't see them addressed properly very often... it always seems to be about slapping modern values on completely different societies.

[(Anonymous)]

You can certainly slap modern values onto historical societies in fiction when it's written by a modern writer who lives in our world of modern values. The characters don't know about our values, but the writer who created them does and chose to write about a society that doesn't.

Historical writers who wrote about their own society, I agree. You can look at them from a modern standpoint but it's unfair to judge them for not sharing our values.

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt, but I disagree with your first point.

I suspect that most modern writers who live in our world of modern values are going to view the world through that lens - but if I'm writing about a medieval period, or the Renaissance, or the old west (etc. etc.), I would think it absolutely ludicrous to ensure that my story included equality between the sexes and no one batting an eye about sexual orientation. Often a writer chooses to have a semi-sympathetic character who might somewhat reflect modern values, but you DO need to reflect the mood and mores of the times. Otherwise, why are you even bothering with a historical setting? Just write it in present-day downtown wherever.

[kitelovesyou]

Jumping in, but I really don't think "modern values" means ensuring equality between the sexes or whoever. It's about showing why inequality might be harmful - in a way that historical writers usually didn't. It's about giving certain perspectives a voice and credence in a way that wasn't then.