[ SECRET POST #3202 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3202 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

put simply, it's all about screen time. the character with the most screen time (there's always going to be one or two with the most screen time) is going to be paired most often with whomever has the second most screen time.

even if A/B and A/C have equally good chemistry, A/B will be the more popular ship if A and B have more screen time (either by themselves or together) than C does.

my main fandom has 5 main characters (none are canonly romantically involved) but only three of those characters are more fully fleshed out as a result of having the most screen time and interactions. but of those three, there's definitely one pairing that gets the most attention and it's the m/m ship because the characters share a lot of screen time together.

[dazzledfirestar]

it's all about screen time. the character with the most screen time.

That is demonstrably untrue in a lot of fandoms tho. Speaking from personal experience something like... say, shipping Clint Barton and Phil Coulson is HUGE, rivaling things like Steve/Bucky. There are thousands of fics but they literally never share the screen and only speak once whereas any other ship involving either man and say... a woman or a black man who they have canon relationships/interactions with is minuscule in comparison, most barely breaking 100 fics if that.

The same thing happens with Steve/Sam, Tony/Rhodey... over and over again. And looking back at the comics fandom as well, Sharon, Natasha, Bobbi Morse... all erased in favor of white men very often.

Race and gender play a huge role in what is popular in most fandoms and what gets written about. Time and time again that's been the case.

[(Anonymous)]

There are thousands of fics but they literally never share the screen and only speak once whereas any other ship involving either man and say... a woman or a black man who they have canon relationships/interactions with is minuscule in comparison

Mostly true, but don't forget about Clintasha. I don't know how the two pairings stack up when including kink memes and Tumblr, but based just on AO3 and ff.net, I think Clintasha might be the bigger ship. At the very least, it's close to Clint/Coulson's numbers.

[dazzledfirestar]

I can't speak to ff.net's numbers on any ship because I can't remember the last time I was there. lol

They might be even, honestly I don't look at either ship with any regularity at this point but taking a quick spin on the Clintasha tag on AO3... a lot of it seems to be Stucky or Steve/Tony fic and not focused on Clintasha much at all (ie they're listed third or forth in the ship tags).

[(Anonymous)]

The same thing happens with Steve/Sam, Tony/Rhodey... over and over again.all erased in favor of white men very often.

You make a good point, but I do think the biggest Tony pairing is Tony/Pepper. Maybe not on A03, but if you bring in numbers from fanfiction.net, it would definitely be the main ship.

[dazzledfirestar]

Well, I haven't been on ff.net in... a very, very long time. But even on AO3 most of the fics labelled as Tony/Pepper are background or past-relationship stuff anyway. Most of those fics focus in on Tony/Steve as end game.

Again, I can't speak to ff.net's numbers because that's not my scene. But even the kink memes I've been on don't tend to focus on Pepper at all.