[ SECRET POST #3202 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3202 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Comments

[dazzledfirestar]

it's all about screen time. the character with the most screen time.

That is demonstrably untrue in a lot of fandoms tho. Speaking from personal experience something like... say, shipping Clint Barton and Phil Coulson is HUGE, rivaling things like Steve/Bucky. There are thousands of fics but they literally never share the screen and only speak once whereas any other ship involving either man and say... a woman or a black man who they have canon relationships/interactions with is minuscule in comparison, most barely breaking 100 fics if that.

The same thing happens with Steve/Sam, Tony/Rhodey... over and over again. And looking back at the comics fandom as well, Sharon, Natasha, Bobbi Morse... all erased in favor of white men very often.

Race and gender play a huge role in what is popular in most fandoms and what gets written about. Time and time again that's been the case.

[(Anonymous)]

There are thousands of fics but they literally never share the screen and only speak once whereas any other ship involving either man and say... a woman or a black man who they have canon relationships/interactions with is minuscule in comparison

Mostly true, but don't forget about Clintasha. I don't know how the two pairings stack up when including kink memes and Tumblr, but based just on AO3 and ff.net, I think Clintasha might be the bigger ship. At the very least, it's close to Clint/Coulson's numbers.

[dazzledfirestar]

I can't speak to ff.net's numbers on any ship because I can't remember the last time I was there. lol

They might be even, honestly I don't look at either ship with any regularity at this point but taking a quick spin on the Clintasha tag on AO3... a lot of it seems to be Stucky or Steve/Tony fic and not focused on Clintasha much at all (ie they're listed third or forth in the ship tags).

[(Anonymous)]

The same thing happens with Steve/Sam, Tony/Rhodey... over and over again.all erased in favor of white men very often.

You make a good point, but I do think the biggest Tony pairing is Tony/Pepper. Maybe not on A03, but if you bring in numbers from fanfiction.net, it would definitely be the main ship.

[dazzledfirestar]

Well, I haven't been on ff.net in... a very, very long time. But even on AO3 most of the fics labelled as Tony/Pepper are background or past-relationship stuff anyway. Most of those fics focus in on Tony/Steve as end game.

Again, I can't speak to ff.net's numbers because that's not my scene. But even the kink memes I've been on don't tend to focus on Pepper at all.