[ SECRET POST #3203 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3203 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

Re: Unpopular/Controversial Headcanons

[(Anonymous)]

Depending on circumstances, I think some people (or at least groups of people) can manage to dominate a fandom to the extent that they can basically drum out people who don't share their headcanon. That's not "erasing" the actual canon, but for practical purposes it comes close.

I can't remember the fandom right now, but a sizeable fan community had built up around the idea that all the female mains belonged to [their group]. The source material did not specify this, but was certainly open to it. The only problem was that this group of fans had apparently declared the entire fandom "our group's safe space" and they would harangue and berate anyone who wrote anything else for violating their safe space and oppressing them.

Re: Unpopular/Controversial Headcanons

[ariakas]

You know you can just write your own shit elsewhere, right? And that someone commenting on your fiction, negatively or otherwise, is not tantamount to "haranguing" or "berating" anyone.

Sorry, I've been around the internet way too long, particularly in fandom, and 99 times out of a hundred, "berating" or "policing" or "drummed out of fandom" actually means "someone criticized something I wrote/liked on their own journal/tumblr and some of their friends agreed - DOGPILING/FANDOM POLICING!!!11"

Particularly with regard to apocryphal stories that start with "I can't remember the fandom right now..."

Yeah, it feels shitty. But people are allowed to disagree with you. They're allowed to say negative things about what you like and what you've written. The upside is that you're allowed to disagree with them, and if they're real shitheads, have your own fun elsewhere. You can't demand they make room for you or never say anything about your work if they don't like it.

An actual story from a fandom I was part of, and remember extremely well: X/1999. The S/S fans dominated the fandom, no question. They were the majority of the fans, the majority of the BNFs, and they said critical (and even cruel) shit about S/K all the time. They (we) even posted said shit for them to read. And yet, the S/K fans made their own forums, kept writing their own fiction, and ignored or criticized us right back, and there was not a damn thing we could do about it. You can't "drum" someone off the internet without resorting to illegal activities like harassment, and if someone's actually harassing - contact the web host or call the police.

Re: Unpopular/Controversial Headcanons

[(Anonymous)]

I love the instant assumption that I'm talking about one of my fandoms and bellyaching about negative reviews on my stuff. It's wrong--and why am I not surprised that you engaged in a slightly milder version of the sort of behavior I'm describing?

My comment was based on wank that I saw back when I frequented Fanficrants, and what made it all the wankier was that violating the group's shared headcanon was treated as a social justice issue, so at least some members of the group felt entitled to be as hateful as social justice people tend to be when they think they're punching up.

Re: Unpopular/Controversial Headcanons

[ariakas]

lol how is calling what you said an "apocryphal" story an "instant assumption" that you're talking about one of your fandoms?

English! Words! Reading! All good things.

Negative reviews are straight-up "wrong", though. That's a new one. Holy shit. That's the thinnest skin I've seen in a while.

Re: Unpopular/Controversial Headcanons

[(Anonymous)]

English! Words! Reading! All good things that you seem to be spectacularly bad at.

Re: Unpopular/Controversial Headcanons

[ariakas]

You tried dude. You tried.

Re: Unpopular/Controversial Headcanons

[ariakas]

((Psst you may want to Google "apocryphal" - it means the exact opposite of of me saying you're talking about your own fandoms. This is, like, English 10, man.))