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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-10-17 03:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #3209 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3209 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-10-17 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
They sound ridiculous, that's why. It's an unnecessarily complication of a relatively simple matter. Either use the damn character names, or just plain "he/she/they said", or chill and realize that most people can follow a basic conversation if it's written coherently and you really don't need to mark out every single time someone is speaking. Otherwise, you clutter up paragraphs going:

"What do you want to do for dinner?" asked Steve.

Tony looked up from his tablet. "Let's get falafel."

"But we had falafel yesterday," objected the tall blond. "Let's get something else."

"But falafel is good!" said the man with the stupid goatee.

"I'm not saying falafel isn't good, I'm just saying that we had it yesterday. I'm kind of in the mood for a burger, to be honest," said the tall blond.

"My doctor said I had to cut back on red meat." The man with the stupid goatee shrugged apologetically.

"Why not try the grilled chicken burger, then?" suggested the tall blond.

"Don't be absurd, grilled chicken isn't a burger, it's... grilled chicken. It takes all the fun out of eating a burger," said the man with the stupid goatee.

etc.

etc.

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[identity profile] naemi.livejournal.com 2015-10-17 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
This must be like one of the worst conversations I ever had the dubious pleasure to read =D

(Anonymous) 2015-10-17 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
/takes a modest bow

Thank you!
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[identity profile] naemi.livejournal.com 2015-10-17 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Good job! Very good job indeed! =)
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[personal profile] iambecomebees 2015-10-17 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
"The talll blond..." So Thor walked into the room? That's another problem with epiphets.

Also when you do dialog tags it's actually "the tall blond said," and not "said the tall blond." You wouldn't say "said he" instead of "he said."
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[personal profile] vethica 2015-10-18 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
Hm? I've never heard this rule before. Both constructions sound fine to me.
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[personal profile] iambecomebees 2015-10-18 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
You'd really write "I'm going to the store for bread," said he?

I wouldn't call it a rule, it just sounds odd in modern prose.
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[personal profile] vethica 2015-10-18 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
No, not that - the other one. "I'm going to the store for bread," said Jeff vs. "I'm going to the store for bread," Jeff said. I think both orders are okay.
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[personal profile] iambecomebees 2015-10-18 05:22 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, but my point is that unless you're going to always use proper nouns, you're not always going to be using it both ways. The POINT of a pronoun is as a substitute for a proper noun and if you can't copypaste the appropriate pronoun right in, there's something odd with your sentence.
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[personal profile] vethica 2015-10-18 12:17 pm (UTC)(link)
We're going to have to disagree on this one.

(Anonymous) 2015-10-18 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
Huh? Both constructs are fine.

[identity profile] brandiweed.livejournal.com 2015-10-18 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
Would you even need the "said" clauses after each dialog sentence? Why not


"What do you want to do for dinner?" asked Steve.

Tony looked up from his tablet. "Let's get falafel."

"But we had falafel yesterday. Let's get something else."

"But falafel is good!"

"I'm not saying falafel isn't good, I'm just saying that we had it yesterday. I'm kind of in the mood for a burger, to be honest,"

"My doctor said I had to cut back on red meat."

"Why not try the grilled chicken burger, then?"

"Don't be absurd, grilled chicken isn't a burger, it's... grilled chicken. It takes all the fun out of eating a burger."

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Quality of conversation aside, unless the reader is unusually dense they can figure out who's talking from context alone.
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[personal profile] ketita 2015-10-18 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
My only caveat would be that you do want to break things up with a name/hint every so often, just because readers can actually lose track of the dialogue if it goes on too long with these exchanges. Tossing in a "complained Tony" or something after a while helps keep things straight.
But definitely not necessary to overuse the "said"s.