[ SECRET POST #3211 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3211 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Jim Carrey]


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03.
[Disney's Descendants]


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04.
(City of Angels)


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05.
[Die Hard/Die Hard 4]


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[Pacific Rim]


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07.
[Sandi Toksvig, Stephen Fry, QI]


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[Undertale]


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I know right? I'm probably going to be the odd person out but I feel like there was a lot more build for Papyrus/Undyne.

[(Anonymous)]

"I don't like this lesbian relationship, you know what would be better? HET!!!!!"

[(Anonymous)]

"I don't really like these two characters that have no chemistry together. You know what'd be better? Two characters that do!"

[(Anonymous)]

No.

Sorry but no.

Undyne outright is a lesbian.

I don't care about not shipping her with her canon love interest, but shipping her het when she's outright said she goes to a specific place to pick up girls??? No.

Fuck no.

I normally am all about chemistry but DON'T FUCKING SHIP A GAY CHARACTER IN A STRAIGHT RELATIONSHIP IT'S HOMOPHOBIC AS FUCK.

[(Anonymous)]

lmao @ you for pretending shipping is some representational issue

(i'm a lesbian for the record too)

[(Anonymous)]

So am I.

But you know what?

It is. It's important. Because I had so many issues with my sexuality growing up because there weren't any non-sexualized for-guys-only lesbian characters. So a character like Undyne, who is in no way sexualized canonly and is a lesbian? It's important to me and I know that kind of shit will help out.

Sorry, but being a lesbian doesn't negate any homophobia you may have. And shipping a lesbian character with a male is really goddamn disgusting. Ship her with fucking Toriel if you have to, but there are other female characters in the goddamn game.

[(Anonymous)]

haha nope

good job on accusing me of internal homophobia too

fictional characters screwing each other matter more than an actual lesbian's opinion, i guess

[(Anonymous)]

adding to this, fandom doesn't negate canon either

the representation doesn't disappear just because people ship het

justifying ships with whose ship is most moral is the dumbest fucking thing and just a childish way to attack people for liking things you don't like

grow the fuck up

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Shipping obviously cannot negate canon, but that doesn't mean that people can't still find certain kinds of ships questionable. The issue doesn't begin and end with representation. (And the issue in this thread didn't even begin with representation, anyways... you brought that up.)

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

It is. It's important. Because I had so many issues with my sexuality growing up because there weren't any non-sexualized for-guys-only lesbian characters. So a character like Undyne, who is in no way sexualized canonly and is a lesbian? It's important to me and I know that kind of shit will help out.

Correct me if I'm mistaken, but that sound like the initial anon was making people shipping canon f/f in a representational issue. That's why I commented the way I did.

I'm also of the opinion that since ships are fictional and anyone with half a brain can separate fiction from reality that it's a good place to explore fantasies without actually harming real people. Also making it into a moralistic issue leads to bullshit like bullying underage kids for shipping Eren x Levi or some shit. That's way more horrific to me than a questionable ship that isn't harming any /actual/ people.

[(Anonymous)]

They only said that after you/some other anon commented with:

lmao @ you for pretending shipping is some representational issue

Their original comment(s) seemed to indicate that they just thought that it was homophobic to put lesbians in het ships, with no mentions (oblique or otherwise) of representation. That they also think that representation is important doesn't mean that representation is their concern here, nor does it cancel out the other issues they seem to have with that kind of ship.

[(Anonymous)]

Adding a little more to this.

I don't mind people examining trends in shipping like how blacks are not popular in ships or how femslash is the least represented pairing type, but making it into a black and white issue where if you don't ship Shawn x Gus or MadoHomu you're an awful bigot reeks of entitlement and seems like a way into bullying people into shipping your ship. That's not how you fight for representation, it's just shipwars with an extra dose of holier-than-thou.

[(Anonymous)]

How did you get shipwar from this thread?

[(Anonymous)]

I dunno, I liked their friendship, but I wouldn't have bought a romance arc for them either. Undertale just doesn't feel like a romance-y game to me, so I think any romance arc would probably put me off.