[ SECRET POST #3217 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3217 ⌋

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Comments

[sarillia]

I was once a creationist who loved science. People picture all creationists as being hostile to science, but there are plenty of creationists who try to fit science to their young Earth beliefs. I'm not saying the attempts to fit it into those beliefs make sense when you have a real understanding of all the scientific evidence and processes involved, but it still comes out of a genuine sense of appreciation for the idea of studying the world around us.

[dreemyweird]

Honestly, I have trouble imagining how someone can be interested in science and fail to realize in, like, the first five minutes of researching the history of our planet that the young Earth beliefs are in no way, shape, or form compatible with it.

Not saying it's impossible, but I'm deeply puzzled by it.

[sarillia]

Well a lot of creationist teaching plays up the us vs them rhetoric, pointing to the most obnoxious, insulting atheists. So on the one side you have those people insulting you and saying that God and science are incompatible and on the other you have the people who make up your community telling you that there's nothing wrong with your beliefs and there are ways to reconcile them with science. That second one can be appealing enough to make you willing to gloss over things that don't seem to make sense because the only other option presented seems awful.

I have a lot of experience with cognitive dissonance. You'd be amazed what you can make yourself believe when there are certain assumptions that you refuse to let go of and bend everything else to support.

[dreemyweird]

Okay, I can see how that would work if one avoided interacting with the science of evolution and with geology.

[dethtoll]

Cognitive dissonance is really perhaps the single most insidiously destructive human behavior facing us today. Right up there with the profit motive, really.

[(Anonymous)]

It's possible in the same way that the anti-vaxx movement cites that bogus Wakefield study to support their beliefs. This is not to say that if a creationist/Young Earther studies the science in good faith, they won't discover things that will change their minds. It happens. But the problem is that quite a lot of creationists won't bother doing this, or they'll cherrypick things support creationism, or they'll rely upon bogus science instead.

There's a whole museum dedicated to this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_Museum

[dreemyweird]

Jesus Christ on the bike. This is both awe-inspiring and horrifying.

[dethtoll]

My mom's been pestering me to go with her to that for years. I have to avoid outright saying "no" but I try my best to brush it off as mildly as possible. It still pisses her off and she starts whining about how I'm not open-minded.

[diet_poison]

Does she...actually want to go and like...take it seriously?

Isn't that the one that has Jesus presented as having co-existed with dinosaurs ??????

[dethtoll]

Yup.

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt - It's even crazier than the wikipedia link describes.

http://whatever.scalzi.com/2007/11/12/your-creation-museum-report/

A whole photoset of the exhibitions:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scalzi/sets/72157603091357751/

It's truly insane, and it's not some tiny one room museum on a budget, it's BIG.

[diet_poison]

Oh wow. I had no idea it was that BIG.

I really want to visit it now. This is going on my bucket list.