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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-10-25 03:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #3217 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3217 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-10-26 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
Ayrt

For the record, I ship them with no qualifiers, but even outside of that mindset, this is a point where the audience will consider the possibilities of what John feels for Sherlock because a character on screen directly brought up the subject. Whatever that bit was for - and you're right that someone made a deision to include it, these things don't happen by accident - if no one is supposed to even let the thought cross their minds then it shouldn't have been written the way it was.
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[personal profile] elaminator 2015-10-26 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
Yea, idk, I thought of it that way too, that there isn't really point in bringing it up again, especially in a moment that seems so serious and poignant, but after other anons comments I'm confused and wondering if I misinterpreted something.

See, usually when people jump to the “their relationship is a romantic one" conclusion John says, “I'm straight!" and people believe him or not, and that's about it. This time, IIRC, he says, “I'm straight!", she says, “I'm gay" as a way of going, “So? That word does not dictate your feelings, emotions are unpredictable" and it comes off feeling like more than a joke. I think John even gives a small chuckle or smile after that; it's a weird scene to include if we're supposed to walk away believing that Irene is just yet another person that won't take John's sexuality seriously... I felt like I was supposed to take away something from it, but again, that the show wasn't going to come back to it, hence queerbaiting.

But honestly idk, now I feel dumb and like I read too much into it.

(Anonymous) 2015-10-29 08:07 am (UTC)(link)
See the one of the queer-baiting things ... John says "I'm not actually gay" and she replies "Well I am, and look at us both." the implication is that she believes, correct or not, that he feels the same way she does about Sherlock. Saying "I'm not gay" is a different thing to "I'm straight" and in fact that's what he always says. Not that I believe it will become canon but if when people questioned their relationship he said "I'm straight" I'd think 100% they are just trying to mock the fact that people have always said that stuff about Holmes and Watson but by leaving his sexuality open they allow the fans to project what they want on the relationship.