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fandomsecrets2015-10-30 07:13 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2015-10-30 07:13 pm
[ SECRET POST #3222 ]
⌈ Secret Post #3222 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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Re: Ok,but /why/ do you hate mras?
No, not at all. I was going to give domestic violence against men not being taken seriously as an example of the serious problems that don't get enough attention because too many MRAs are busy insulting women instead of actually doing something to help men, but I already felt like I was rambling.
I don't think men are just lazy and toxic. I do think that there is more of a history of women working together to advocate for themselves, but the reasons for that are varied and complex and I think they have more to do with the perceptions of each gender than any inherent difference between them.
There is no bias that men aren't and can't be real victims, or that women can't victimize others.
You're putting words in my mouth. I don't believe that at all. I'm really sorry you've had to deal with that.
Re: Ok,but /why/ do you hate mras?
You're putting words in my mouth. I don't believe that at all. I'm really sorry you've had to deal with that.
Maybe you didn't intentionally imply so, but to me your words implied that the reason why there aren't enough resources for men is because they aren't working to build resources and that MRAs only complain about feminism instead of doing that work. You did not mention the existence of any kind of bias against male victims or any other reason why they wouldn't have adequate resources. I'm sorry if I read more into that then you meant.
Re: Ok,but /why/ do you hate mras?
I meant it when I said that I'd like to hear about organizations that are really trying to help. That wasn't a skeptical "I'll believe it when I see it" thing. It's just that I can't recall a MRA discussion I've seen that was actually focused on helping men rather than insulting women. It's specific MRAs that I've come across that it's directed at when I say that they need to support each other instead of expecting women to fix things for them, but I'm sorry I overgeneralized before. I don't believe that all men are doing that. And I get just as frustrated by feminists and people in other similar groups who seem more focused on insulting others than supporting each other.