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I don't really know how to explain the difference, but the thing that sticks out to me about lesbian porn made by men and lesbian porn made by women is that, in the stuff made for women, it actually looks enjoyable. Like, in the stuff that's made by men, the women are in positions that display their bodies but are uncomfortable in real life, and the way they eat each other out just doesn't look pleasurable at all, and they have super ridiculously tonguey kisses, and tend to say a lot of things like "yeah, you like that, don't you? Oh yeah, you're a little slut, aren't you?" None of it is stuff I've actually done or would like to do. But in the stuff that's made by women, I can actually go, "yeah, that would be fun."

I guess it's kind of like how some guys think that when girls have sleepovers we all strip down to our underwear and have pillow fights? Lesbian porn made by men is what they wish lesbian sex was like, not what it's actually like.

But then the question to me is, does that have to do with anything fundamental about the male sexual appetite or is it simply a result of, you know, the porn world being shitty at making porn and full of shitty dudes, or whatever. Is that a fundamental thing or an accident.

I think it's too cyclical to be able to separate the two. the influence of what a man sees in porn as he's developing his sexuality and during his young adulthood isn't something you can really "undo" in order to see if he'd innately be into degrading porn if he hadn't grown up with degrading porn. I'm an optimist so I'd say it's probably that beyond the urges being more frequent and intense (as a result of more testosterone, obv), the male sexual appetite probably isn't inherently degrading, objectifying, rapey, etc, and that the majority of that shit comes from our culture and how we've framed male/female relationships for hundreds if not thousands of years.

Just out of curiosity, the tenor of your thrust would seem to be that - though these themes are basically cultural - it's difficult if not impossible for men to not be interested or even to choose to dissociate themselves from that kind of sexual presentation. Would you agree with that?

As a lesbian who has watched, done, and even written - for a given value of writing - and directed a few videos, I can tell you it's bullshit. There is types of porn made by women the way you describe it, but trust me, we love the filthy shit too.

Half the porn - maybe not half, but a good chunk of it - where the woman "looks uncomfortable" and there's the sense that the fucking is rough and only fun in a physical sense is made by women who enjoy it. I think people would probably be inclined to write it off as "Oh a man probably made that for other men" without needing to look into it, and then people's idea that women aren't like that and men are is strengthened.

Let me assure you, I like to see a woman devastated by a good fucking as much as any man you care to name. I want to see a woman get deconstructed by a hard, uncomfortable fucking. Hell, I'd like to be that woman. And there's not a god-damn thing wrong with that. So to answer OP's question, when sex is just seen as "bad" and "anti-woman" by the people watching it not having it, it's blamed on men. When it's seen as "healthy" and "Good" and "Empowering" - which is such bullshit. Any sex you enjoy is empowering, and that sex requires zero approval from the people not having it - it's attributed to women.

make those softcore to hardcore.

from those hardcore, whatever....

good luck...

You're confusing "filthy shit" with "doesn't look like real sex."

I'm not talking about porn where a woman gets devastated by a good fucking. I'm talking about porn where people are in positions that don't actually fucking work and don't feel good for either person in real life. I'm talking about people sticking out their tongues and flicking them together without their lips touching, as if people actually kiss like that.

I didn't say anything about the type of sex on display. I didn't say anything about rough sex being bad. I was talking about fake-seeming, OTT shit vs real-seeming shit. And you, in your rush to make some kind of statement about sex positivity, decided that it must mean I think any porn that isn't all rose petals and silk sheets is degrading and MUST be made by men and couldn't possibly be enjoyed by women.

And you, in your rush to shit on sex positivity seem to be missing my point, that just because it doesn't look good to you, doesn't mean that some women who watch porn don't want to see it, and just because it looks uncomfortable or displeasurable to you doesn't mean we don't enjoy acting it out anyway.

Porn is a show. some of us like to put on a good show regardless of the reality of it. And honestly, if you watch porn for it to be realistic rather than just hot I can only guess how bad that must be for you.

Yes, of course, I MUST be shitting on sex positivity, just like I MUST hate portrayals of rough sex. But you've already proven you're more interested in reading what you think is there so that you can be offended rather than reading what's actually written.

So sorry that I don't think a woman screeching obviously fake moans is a good show. But I guess since you're more of a Real Lesbian than anyone else here, you get to decide what's a good show and what isn't.

you've already proven you're more interested in reading what you think is there so that you can be offended rather than reading what's actually written

Which is funny, because that's exactly what you're doing.

And I'm not claiming to be any more of a real anything than anybody, I'm saying some women like -Blank- You're the one claiming that "No, men are the only ones who make and enjoy -blank- Women like it more like -unblank-

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