[ SECRET POST #3227 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3227 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Mary McDonnell, Battlestar Galactica, Major Crimes]


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[Deadly Premonition]


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[The Walking Dead, Glenn Rhee]


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[Bill Skarsgård]


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08. http://i.imgur.com/LAq54d4.jpg
[link for random penis]









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Comments

Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them

[ketita]

So for anybody following the news, Rowling dropped that the American word for muggle is 'no-maj'

discuss.

Re: Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them

[(Anonymous)]

Not a big fan of it.

Re: Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them

[ketita]

Yeah, I'm not in love with it either. I'm trying to figure out if it's just that I'm used to muggle and so picky about anything new, or that there's something less...fun about it? idk.

Re: Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them

[(Anonymous)]

Haha why is it different? I guess "muggle" sounds like a cutesy English word rather than something "American", but it doesn't actually have a meaning does it? I should've thought the Western wizarding world would be more tight-knit. It will be interesting to see how else she differentiates American wizarding culture.

Re: Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them

[(Anonymous)]

My gut reaction is she must think we're all how the Americans she finds on Twitter portray us.

Surely she can come up with a better word. What little I've heard of the American side of magic, overall, has not left me impressed. Europe gets fancy words and things, USA gets generic placeholder-y terms. :(

Re: Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them

[ketita]

Oh? I haven't been following the news closely (this was just plastered all over my facebook), but what other boring terms has she come up with for America?
I kind of agree with you, it's lacking in whimsy.

Re: Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Offhand, the only thing I can think of is the group of witches from the Salem Witches' Institute that showed up at the Quidditch World Cup, and something about that just irked me (compared with all the magic school names in Europe). I feel like I've seen a handful of references in various places to the American side of wizarding, though, and it's always been a letdown. Sorry I can't be more specific.

Re: Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them

[(Anonymous)]

That's really stupid.

Re: Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them

[(Anonymous)]

Short for "no magic"? Honestly, speaking as an American, it does sound like the kind of term we might come up with and shorten over time. I mean, we're the ones that turned "moving picture" into "movie."

Re: Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them

[(Anonymous)]

oh shit, i just got that.

Re: Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them

[ketita]

Yeah, but look at Jazz Age slang. There's so much fun stuff going on.

Re: Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them

[(Anonymous)]

It seems too blatant compared to 'muggle' for me.

Re: Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them

[belladonna_took]

Sounds like delicious revenge for all the "Sorcerer's Stone" nonsense.

Re: Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them

[ketita]

haaaaaaaahahaha accurate

Everybody's being morons and ignoring that this is a period movie.

[chardmonster]

It takes place in NYC in fucking 1926. You know what that means?

WIZARD. FLAPPERS.

And yeah in my WIZARD FLAPPER movie, "no-maj" sounds close enough to 1920s slang that it doesn't look like Rowling doesn't have imagination. It looks like she actually kind of gets the 1920s.

People complaininga bout how boring the names are: you are probably American. Have you noticed how we name things? Now look at institution names in Great Britain. See? WE'RE ACTUALLY DIFFERENT.

Of course it's going to be the Salem Witches' Institute and not fucking Salemwoggles or someshit.

Re: Everybody's being morons and ignoring that this is a period movie.

[(Anonymous)]

If it actually delivers on 1920s-style adventure wizards, I will love this movie for the rest of my life.

Also, it's worth pointing out here that maybe more than any other single thing, what JKR has proven herself adept at is understanding old genres & reinterpreting them for the modern age. She literally built a fortune on adding magic to Edwardian school stories. So I'm mildly optimistic about stuff like this, against my best judgment.

Re: Everybody's being morons and ignoring that this is a period movie.

[chardmonster]

Same. It looks like they're actually putting forth an effort. There's always a chance the plot is silly (and a bigger chance that idiot fans will complain about a silly plot entirely forgetting that this is a children's series and not their grimdark fanfic) but I expect the worldbuilding to be solid.

Putting the American ministry in the Woolworth Building? Brilliant.

Re: Everybody's being morons and ignoring that this is a period movie.

[ketita]

Well, I'm not American XD and I'm not super enthused?
1920s slang included stuff like: Abe's Cabe, big cheese, zozzled, boys being called sheiks, lollygagger, noodle juice, grummy...
I really don't think that "no-maj" fits in with the fun you see in a lot of 20s slang, in part because the etymology is so direct and obvious.

I am also thinking, and don't really have much to back this up atm, but it seems to me that fairly often when in-groups have a name for an out-group, it often constitutes what they *are* rather than what they *are not*. As in, most out-group names I know will not be called "not us", but "them". I would have probably been more okay with a term that didn't mean "not magic" so literally.
(I would give some examples but I doubt I can come up with anything that would not get me laughed at)

Re: Everybody's being morons and ignoring that this is a period movie.

[chardmonster]

It's hard to articulate or prove, really but: as someone who's had to read a lot of 1910s-1920s stuff for my dissertation, "no-maj" rings true. It sounds like a bastardized version of a sensitive term.

"We aren't going to call them Muggles! That's racist. We'll call them NonMagical Persons." And then their kids come up with "no-maj."

Re: Everybody's being morons and ignoring that this is a period movie.

[(Anonymous)]

Do you have to try to be an asshole to people, or does it come naturally? JW

Re: Everybody's being morons and ignoring that this is a period movie.

[(Anonymous)]

What on earth is your damage, anon? that was a perfectly reasonable post.

Re: Everybody's being morons and ignoring that this is a period movie.

[grausam]

>Salemwoggles

lol

And I generally agree.

Re: Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them

[(Anonymous)]

... how do you do plural of this. no-majes? no-mays? no-maj period? I kinda only really see that work in black subculture. specifically, I could totally see that term work in a caribbean context but NY? Idk. Not American myself though, nor ever been there. Just speaking from my experience with literature and movies.
I'd have thought that some imported word would have been the best choice. Something from Yiddish or Dutch or even Sanskrit (like Bungalow or Gully)...

Beeze (Bayz or Bayze) for example wouldn't have been so bad. From the German Word Besen (Broom), for someone who cleans with a broom instead of riding it, and who can be "used", because they lack the sort of agency magical people do. It would tie in nicely with the also objectifying term "muggle".

Re: Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them

[ketita]

Huh, yeah, I like that suggestion! That sounds more fun to me.
But eh, who are we, just nobodies on the internet... guess we're stuck with no-maj.

Re: Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them

[(Anonymous)]

Huh.

I may need some time to get used to it.

And hey, just because this is a term in the 1920s , doens't mean it's set in stone. I'm sure new terms will probably develop between 1920 and 2015