[ SECRET POST #3228 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3228 ⌋

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[fscom]

05. http://i.imgur.com/ql4RAwf.png

[ketita]

Disney songs are fun and catchy, and some of them are legitimately great, but I think that plenty of them are lacking in the poetry department.
I've never been enamored of the Beauty and the Beast songs in general. (Pocahontas probably has my favorites)

[sarillia]

I do love the music in Pocahontas but that is the one with the line from Savages: "They're not like you and me, which means they must be evil!" :D

[ketita]

This is probably my exhaustion speaking, but are you criticizing it? Pocahontas has its issues at the movie, but I always thought that line - and that entire song, really - was on point.

[sarillia]

Seems too on the nose to me. But it amuses me so that's still making me happy.

[ketita]

It's supposed to be an educational song for children about not being bigoted. I'm not surprised it's not very nuanced.

[ozaline]

The song was probably the best part of the movie, but that particular line was a bit hyperbolic, then considering how racist our world still is there's room for hyperbole.

[ketita]

It's supposed to be educational (anti-bigotry) and for children. Of course it's over-the-top?

[ozaline]

Sure, it's just that's so over-the-top it reaches around again... it even made the Nostalgia Chick do a double take

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjwMn_eO2jo#t=10m04s

[ketita]

...well I don't know that the Nostalgia Chick is my measure of anything, really.
I also wasn't really /defending/ Pocahontas as such, or even the lyrics - they're just imo really pretty and/or singable songs. Only topped by Be A Man, for me.

[ozaline]

Fair enough, I like the song that line just feels clunky, but kind of in a fun way.

[ketita]

I'll also add, I'm not super fond of the Nostalgia Chick overall. One of the few videos of hers I saw was Mulan, and I thought some of her criticisms were way off, as was the fact checking.
iirc she complained about Mulan going home in the end, but that part is actually 100% accurate to basically all versions of the original. Also the thing about footbinding... yes it's awful, but it also happened WAY after the Mulan story was set.
It didn't really make me want to see many more of her videos.

[ozaline]

Yeah the Mulan video had some issues I think her more recent stuff now that she's no longer the Nostalgia Chick are a lot better.

But I do agree with you that the criticism of her not accepting the Emperor's position is a little off, cause it assumes that there's only one way to be feminist, she doesn't have to want the job does she, if she would prefer to go home turning down an Emperor is still pretty impressive. Though she does accept the job in Kingdom Hearts II.

I think it's more the exact situation with the Emperor wasn't in the original account, so I can see her critiquing that, but I don't agree with the critique... I just thought that bit from the Pocahontas review was funny.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Well it's not like the Jem song is amazing poetry either it just occurred to me when I was rewatching Jem recently that the Disney song doesn't have much to do with the themes of looking past appearances and such in Beauty and the Beast it's just... "they weren't in love and now they are!"

Whereas yeah the Jem song hit the nail on the head with just it's title.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

Well that's probably because Belle and the Beast have Something There as their Falling in Love(tm) song, which already covers all the bases lyrically speaking.

[(Anonymous)]

This was one of my favorite Jem episodes

Op

[(Anonymous)]

It was good, but I also have to laugh at the part where Jem says she knows the difference between the romance of the stage and real life...

Then two episodes later Jerrica is bad mouthing Jem, and creating a third personae to test Rio.

[otakugal15]

No

[dahli]

"Barely even friends/then somebody bends"

Okay, my mind just went to the gutter with this one.

[(Anonymous)]

If you take that truncated line out of context of the song, it sounds a bit silly. The lyrics overall are actually quite good:

Barely even friends,
Then somebody bends unexpectedly
Certain as the sun
Rising in the East
Tale as old as time
Song as old as rhyme
Beauty and the Beast

(My favorite for Disney music will forever be Hunchback of Notre Dame tho)

Op

[(Anonymous)]

My point wasn't that the lyrics aren't good... they are, but what did that actually tell you about the Story of Beauty and the Beast, it says it's a tale as old as time... but the only thing it tells us is that they start off not liking each other and then fall in love. It doesn't say anything about looking past appearances, or inner beauty like the Jem song does.

Re: Op

[(Anonymous)]

But when you watch the movie it's more about Belle looking through the Beast's gruff personality than just his appearance, so I think the song being about learning to get along and see more in each other fits.