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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-11-05 07:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #3228 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3228 ⌋

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Re: Arguments or criticisms you hate

(Anonymous) 2015-11-06 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
it's natural, so it's okay

murder, rape, and cannibalism are natural, but that doesn't make them morally right by any means

Re: Arguments or criticisms you hate

(Anonymous) 2015-11-06 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with this, especially when used in gay arguments. I mean, I'm gay. But "it happens in nature" is a really weak argument. Well... I guess it's useful in the sense of putting down people who say it's man-made, or "unnatural".

I feel the same way about "it's not a choice, and you've just gotta be yourself". I mean, that could go both ways - what if you're a pedophile?

The point is, gay is okay because gay is okay, period. It doesn't matter if it's a choice, it doesn't matter if it's "natural", the point is, it's perfectly healthy, doesn't hurt anyone, and the world needs more love (between consenting adults, that is).

Re: Arguments or criticisms you hate

(Anonymous) 2015-11-06 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
Well... I guess it's useful in the sense of putting down people who say it's man-made, or "unnatural".

Yeah, in that context, the argument can make sense, because it does validate the idea that there is some biological aspect to homosexuality, and is proof that you can't "turn" people straight or gay.

Even then, though, I agree that saying something is "natural" just as an argument, for anything, isn't always the wise way to go. Even if it's true, there's plenty of other arguments that need to back up why something's okay or acceptable and whatnot as well.

The point is, gay is okay because gay is okay, period. It doesn't matter if it's a choice, it doesn't matter if it's "natural", the point is, it's perfectly healthy, doesn't hurt anyone, and the world needs more love (between consenting adults, that is).

And I also agree with this.
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Re: Arguments or criticisms you hate

[personal profile] philstar22 2015-11-06 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
And vice versa. Also you shouldn't do that because it isn't natural arguments. Human are rational beings. We don't have to follow instincts or be exactly like other animals. We think, we can make choices. I really hate natural law arguments.