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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-11-05 07:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #3228 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3228 ⌋

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Re: Arguments or criticisms you hate

(Anonymous) 2015-11-06 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
Nope, sorry. I'm all about the internal logic. That's literally all that matters to me. That they are also representative of real situations is just the response to comments like yours (I presume) and worse. But I don't watch for that or talk about that or care about that.

I care about the in-universe logic. And that's not wrong, and people should be able to talk about that without people butting in to castigate the writers or be insulting to people who don't watch the same way they do.
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Out of curiosity

[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-11-06 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
Is there ever a point where you throw up your hands? There are some stories I can't make consistent by internal logic.

Re: Out of curiosity

(Anonymous) 2015-11-06 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
Like what?
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Re: Out of curiosity

[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-11-06 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm . . . I can't think of names offhand, but I feel like this was a thing with bad video games from the late '90s and early 2000s. It felt like the reason characters did the things they did was to set up the next fight, not because there was any motivation for it.

Re: Out of curiosity

(Anonymous) 2015-11-06 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
I guess that's an instance where it would depend on the game. Like, I've definitely played games where the fights were what was fun and I didn't really give a crap about the story or cut scenes. So, in that regard, it wouldn't bother me.

But I've also played games where the story IS really compelling. And I've watched shows and movies that were really compelling but then the characters behave in deeply stupid ways. And that's irritate -- and sometimes it does turn me off of the media -- but it's because I don't like what the character is doing, not because I have any preconcieved notions about the writers and their motivations or because I've refused to look beyond my own feelings to consider if there's a reason a character would do something other than "writers who are just exploiting women!"

And that, I guess, is what's at the heart of my complaint. People who look for the worst interpretations of something, refuse any others and blame it all on the "bad writers" who don't do what those people want. When really, it's just something you don't like.
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Re: Out of curiosity

[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-11-06 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe we're hanging out in different communities. The worst fans I've dealt with have been ones who never allow "the writer dun goofed," so one line indicating a character was a horrible person had to be integrated with everything else and irrevocably colored interpretations of that character. I haven't had a lot of bad experiences wit fans who criticized writers.

Re: Arguments or criticisms you hate

(Anonymous) 2015-11-06 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
SA
OK, I was rereading and realized that two comments ago I said I care about the real people fictional people represent and then in the next comment I said I didn't, and that's pretty contradictory and confusing.

I guess what I mean is that the real-world takeaways aren't WHY I watch a show at all. But that I *can* see them in what's happening onscreen keeps me from losing my shit because men wrote that when they could have written it another way. Because anybody who writs anything could have done it another way, and what matters is "does this way seem real? Is there something IRL that makes me say "yeah, that could happen."

If yes, I've got no moral beef with the writers.