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...killing their abusive parent(s)?

No.

Depends, like usual. Obviously how abusive are we talking about and what situation did the murder occur in.

The easiest cut-and-dry scenario would be if the parent(s) were an immediate threat to their children and said children reacted in self-defense. Everything else is a bit gray... especially if the kids are of age (whatever it may be) because people might just say they were lucky to have a home at all, etc.

That being said, I would never condemn the daughter of the Fritzl case for murdering her father or her mother despite not being in immediate danger because jesus christ that was messed up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritzl_case

Also I hope this is just hypothetical questioning because if you feel you are being abused by your parents, don't ask F!S, get immediate help!

I'm definitely not asking for myself, don't worry. I mostly asked to see if my opinion is shared, not to gather advice on whether or not I should kill my parents (who are abusive, but not dangerous, and I'm an adult who rarely sees them and is about to graduate -- plus, my conscience would never let me get away with doing something as illegal as murder, even if I felt it was ethically okay).

Yes, unless it were in self defense. Killing is wrong, even the worst of people. If it's not self defense, well, you are a worse person than your parent and deserve the jail time.

With routinely abusive parents, it's still self defense even if they're not hurting you at the present moment. Because they're going to the next day, or the next time they get angry or drunk. It's all a matter of when.

Also what if they were hurting, or even worse, raping your younger sibling? Would you really be "worse than your parents" if you killed them to spare your younger sibling the abuse?

Nice black and white morality.

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I think the Menendez brothers used that defense. For some reason, it didn't work.

nayrt, but you seem to be putting this question as if it must have an EITHER OR answer. E.g., 'EITHER you kill your parents OR you continue to suffer abuse/let it happen to someone else.' That's the sucker's choice - those aren't the only two options available.

Why wouldn't you alert the authorities before resorting to killing someone? Take it to the police, the media, child welfare, extended family?

If you want to paint the either/or scenario, then at least be specific about it when asking the question in the first place. Otherwise, my answer is obviously going to consider that there are more options than just killing or continuing to suffer.

No, it is only self defense if you are protecting yourself (or others) from immediate violence. That's it. If there's no immediate violence, you call the police and you get out of there. Getting out of there is the answer, not killing. Defending yourself or someone else with violence is a LAST RESORT.

It is pretty black and white, yes.

(Defending your siblings from being raped is still self defense. and I don't know why you're going to immediately killing. defense can be done without killing. The priority would be to get your parent off your sibling and for you and the siblings to get the fuck out of the house and call the police)

Well the statement that killing the abuser would make them "worse" than the abuser is laughably stupid and shows how narrow minded you are.

Really?

A person who mistreats a child in their care 90% to be worse than the victim even if the victim killed them. An adult who mistreats or abuses a child they're trusted to protect is pretty high on the evil scale.

Planned killing is the ultimate crime, so yeah. I do think so.

You're the weird one who is trying to justify murdering someone, so I'm not sure if you have the moral high horse here.

Yes, I would. Of course, you didn't offer any specifics, so I am presuming it's not self-defense as in an immediate "I fear for my life" situation.

Depends entirely on the specifics of the situation. Are they currently living with their parent(s)? Is the abuse ongoing? Are they in reasonable fear for their wellbeing or the wellbeing of a sibling or other family member?

The person who snaps and lashes back at the person beating them is different fron the person who snaps and lashes back at the person berating them is different from the person who kills their abuser in their sleep is different from the person who kills their abuser months of years after they've separated themself from the abusive situation. In all cases, I'm inclined to judge the person who kills their abuser much less harshly than I would the person who takes the same action without a history of abuse, but less harshly doesn't necessarily mean not at all.

Depends on what the abuse is.

Physical/sexual? Yes.

Verbal and mental? Not really, it's gonna have to depend on what and how severe.

Did you get those swapped around? Or are you honestly saying you'd condemn someone for killing a parent who physically and/or sexually abused them, but potentially excuse their killing a parent who psychologically abused them?

Emotional/verbal depends on the severity.

Someone who is actively harming you, as in you're in the hospital more times than not? Fuck that shit, they are dead.

Physical/sexual abuse = death to the parents doing it.
Emotional/verbal = no to maybe.

edit: Went back and reread my comment. Oops, not what I meant. Yes meaning, I agree they should be able to kill said parents, not yes, I condemn them. *face palm*

Sorry for the snippy original comment.

Edited 2015-11-08 21:53 (UTC)

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