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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-11-08 03:09 pm

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(Anonymous) 2015-11-08 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think the story is that bad.

The directing and editing was horrible however. In a technical sense, the movies are incredibly monotonous. I wouldn't mind reading the novel version but these movies are great examples of when technical execution stomps out a story and makes it difficult to watch.
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[personal profile] vethica 2015-11-08 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh man, please do read the novel version of Revenge of the Sith. I can't speak to the other two, but Matthew Stover knocks that book out of the freakin' park.
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[personal profile] ceebeegee 2015-11-09 09:00 am (UTC)(link)
Agree with this. The novel isn't bad at all. I quite liked "The Hero with No Fear."
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[personal profile] philstar22 2015-11-08 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
While I do like the Prequels, I will say that at least the Revenge of the Sith novelization is a lot better. I love that book a lot. One scene in particular that is done better is the scene of the Jedi challenging Palpatine. The dialogue in the novel is perfect. I really love it so much. One of my favorite of the Star Wars books.

(Anonymous) 2015-11-08 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, the story that I could follow, I didn't have issue with. The problem was I had no interest in sitting through so much cutting from one person to another in continuous ten minute dialogue sections. Then a completely expected ten minute action sequence. Then another ten minute conversation. How they put the actual film together was crap and didn't do the story justice.

(Anonymous) 2015-11-08 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
SA

To be a little clearer, it felt like a beautiful world with interesting characters and a complex plot... being narrated by a droning old grandfather. I could tell the universe was there and trying to be told, but the way it was presented in such stock and boring and monotonous ways, in the film-making sense, that it made me fall asleep to it.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2015-11-08 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that's pretty subjective, though. I didn't find it boring at all. But I'm really interested in politics and sociology and the reasons why people do things. So I really loved that aspect of the movies. Watching a Galaxy fall into evil and tyranny and understanding why. To me it totally made sense and explained so much of the OT. So that's not really a thing that is about the objective quality of the movies or something that makes them objectively bad the way some people claim.

(Anonymous) 2015-11-08 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think we're saying the same thing here.

You're focusing on what points about the world and plot interested you, which is subjective.

I'm talking about filmmaking styles and the direction and editing being generic and stock, which is not. The films break so many 101 rules about what not to do and how not to shoot and how not to structure shots and scenes - 10 minutes of cutting back and forth between characters having a dialogue in undynamic scenery being the most obvious. To say that the films do this is not subjective.

(Anonymous) 2015-11-08 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Here we go...Red Letter Media talking point...

I'll be honest, I MUCH prefer the way the prequels are shot to films such as Nolan's Batman films.

So I will say that it's a personal preference.

I also think that Abrams has a tendency to move the camera TOO much. He's always focusing the camera in and telling the audience EXACTLY where to look.

Whereas I prefer the setup that directors such as David Lean employed of often having very wide shots which forced the audience to really pay attention but which set up each scene almost as a portrait.

To each their own, but I hate how some act like everyone's preferences are the same.

If you like films like The Dark Knight or Star Trek 2009 which are exceedingly well rated then that's fine. But I despise them. And that's an equally legitimate opinion.

(Anonymous) 2015-11-08 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought the Clone Wars mini series that I watched with my baby sister on Cartoon Network did a better job with the story than Lucas's films.
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[personal profile] back_to_zero 2015-11-09 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
Agree!
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[personal profile] darnaguen 2015-11-08 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
That's exactly why I'm so excited about The Force Awakens. Abrams might not be everyone's cup of tea as a director, but at least he's a dynamic director. The trailers already show the world and characters in much more interesting light because directing and cinematography seems on point.