[ SECRET POST #3231 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3231 ⌋

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Comments

[purpleseas]

So you're "old enough to appreciate cinema," but you won't watch a movie that looks dated? lol

[(Anonymous)]

What does that even mean, though? Reaching an age where you can understand what it means to like a good movie doesn't suddenly obligate you to watch everything. It's better to knowingly avoid things you feel might not be to their taste; we have too many people complaining about stuff they hatewatch as it is.

[purpleseas]

You don't have to watch or like everything, but dismissing movies out of hand just because you can tell they were made in 1977 or whenever isn't really "appreciating cinema." Part of appreciating any art form is acknowledging what came before and stepping out of your own times and life experiences to see what else is out there. You need a little sense of adventure, not just a vague idea that it might not be to your taste so there's no reason to try it at all. I had no reason to suspect I might enjoy Marx Brothers comedies from the 30s when I was 17, but they were having a marathon on New Year's Eve and there we were. Being open to different things is a lot of fun!

[(Anonymous)]

I really have to point out that this is more pretentious than anything the secret had to say. Whereas OP sneers at people for daring to defend something they hate, you are telling people how they should go about their lives if they want to call themselves movie fans. That's... not much better.

[purpleseas]

OP said "appreciating cinema," which has a much different connotation than being a movie fan. But okay, trying new (old) things and being aware that art didn't begin when you were a teenager is pretentious. lolol

[arcadiaego]

The OP is pretending to be knowledgeable when they're not, which is pretentious by definition. Encouraging people to have a wide knowledge base isn't pretentious if you actually have one and think it's valuable.

[51stcenturyfox]

Completely agree.

I really reject the idea that these films are "dated" anyway and I don't know what that might mean for something like the original Star Wars films. They're sci-fi, so...there's no CGI yet? What's dated about them?

Is Metropolis dated? 2001, A Space Odyssey?

[purpleseas]

Yeah, this is the kind of thinking that leads to a zillion remakes dripping with awful CGI. I love how forgettable a lot of them are to audiences, though, especially with horror. Those movies are iconic for a reason.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree, although I'll quibble with the semantics. :) I think all films get dated, by the SFX or the prevailing attitudes of the time that show up in the storytelling - but a great story is still a great story, and great films stand the test of time. It's not that they don't have aspects that are dated - it's that they still make an impact on the viewer.

I adore Metropolis, in spite of the over-exaggerated acting that's common to silent films, and including the fight up on the rooftops.

In a slight aside, it's interesting to me that 2001 A Space Odyssey feels much less dated than the sequel 2010, which had much better effects. In spite of the obviously out-of-date computer technology in 2001, the film itself still feels like the future.

However, in terms of Star Wars, yes, I do think most of the claims of "it's dated" are due to the special effects, which is a particularly shallow complaint.

[51stcenturyfox]

I'll acknowledge that elements of film can be dated compared to today's films, but it's an art form that evolves based on prior work. It's like saying Picasso is dated compared to Basquiat.

Like...I have zero respect for people who say they can't watch black and white films because they're black and white. This is an attitude I have actually encountered.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, I agree with you. I just kind of wanted to talk about it, so I go on and on. Sometimes I do that - sorry!

And yes, I get exasperated with people who won't watch black and white films; they are missing so many brilliant films! Their loss.

[51stcenturyfox]

It's totally cool! Enjoying the conversation! :D

I mean, sure, Star Wars isn't for everyone, but I reject their reason. Heh.

[(Anonymous)]

MTE. Actually I recently watched the original trilogy and was surprised how I had made them seem more dated in my memory, but when looking at them again after a few years they looked almost contemporary. Except for a few things like the hairstyles...

[fishnchips]

It's pretty obvious that OP is quite pretentious, I'd say. But almost all self-proclaimed critics are.

[(Anonymous)]

Nah. There's nothing wrong with trying to talk and think about movies, I don't think. Sorry.

[fishnchips]

There's nothing wrong with trying to talk and think about it but if you go the "Ugh, objectively this piece of media is BAD and everyone who doesn't think so is a clueless sheep" route, you risk sounding pretentious.

[(Anonymous)]

Sure. But I wouldn't describe that as being a critic. I would describe that as being an ass.

[fishnchips]

Most self proclaimed critics I've seen do go that route, though.

[(Anonymous)]

Eh, as a critic they probably wouldn't have copped to never having watched the original trilogy, though. I hear those films are kind of a big deal.

[purpleseas]

Just a bit. lol

[kryss_labryn]

My husband refuses to watch any movies that are in black and white, which I think is just dumb. But there you go. He doesn't like the aesthetics of, like, pre-mid-Eighties movies (and really, anny movie over about ten years old now so it seems to be a sliding scale since he's been saying this for a while) and finds that his dislike of that gets in the way of enjoying anything else about the movie, so he just doesn't watch them. So he misses out. Big time.

So I make a point of showing the kids great old movies, because dammit, someone needs to educate them and this Film Studies course isn't going to go to complete waste, hah.