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⌈ Secret Post #3234 ⌋

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[Golden Girls]

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[Boku no Hero Academia]

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[C.S. Lewis vs. J.R.R. Tolkien]

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[Pokémon, Leah Remini]

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[Tales of Zestiria]

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[The Man In The High Castle]

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[Marjorie Liu, Sana Takeda, Monstress]

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[Sleepy Hollow]

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I don't think Firefly is a parallel for the US Civil War or that by rooting for the Serenity crew, we're rooting for the confederacy.

I mean, it is a parallel for the Civil War - and not only that, but it makes sense that it would be. It's a space Western. Part of the basic context of the normal Western as a genre is that it's post-Civil War, and that often the protagonist is a former soldier, often a Confederate. Given those things, and the parallels that exist simply in the way the setting works, I don't think it's very hard to connect the dots. It's not a perfect or an exact parallel, it's not 100% but the parallel does exist.

But I agree that rooting for the Serenity crew does not mean rooting for the Confederacy. Like I say, it's not 1 to 1. I think the aspect that you could say is problematic is how often a lot of the arguments that Mal uses, and a lot of the way that the show presents its own world - how often that mirrors the narrative of Confederate apologia & the self-understanding of ex-Confederates. Which I think is fucked up especially because that's a powerful and still-extent ideology. But that's a different thing from saying that Mal Is Literally A CSA Soldier.

NAYRT - I've never seen many westerns, so I didn't know that. I wonder how many Firefly fans have? Because that right there explains a lot about the show.

See, I think it's a much better parallel to compare Firefly to a failed Revolutionary War. Space Western is just the genre.

But Western as a genre is not just a set of costumes. And it's really not hard to see all the ways that Firefly's setting parallels the typical Western setting and structure.

Why do you think that it's a better parallel to compare Firefly to a failed revolutionary war (and also, what do you have in mind specifically when you say 'revolutionary war')

I think it's... complicated. I think Joss Whedon based it on the idea of people not wanting to be part of this huge union, and unfortunately linked it to the civil war without considering the problematic implications. So by that I don't think it's supposed to be that we're rooting for the confederacy, but I could do without the links.

(I still love Firefly, though.)

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