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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-11-11 06:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #3234 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3234 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.
[Golden Girls]


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02.
[Boku no Hero Academia]


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03.
[C.S. Lewis vs. J.R.R. Tolkien]


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04.
[Pokémon, Leah Remini]


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05.
[Tales of Zestiria]


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06.
[The Man In The High Castle]


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07.
[Marjorie Liu, Sana Takeda, Monstress]


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08.
[Sleepy Hollow]








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Re: Controversial Opinions

(Anonymous) 2015-11-12 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think everything needs to be accessible to everyone. For example, I don't think we need to take combat out of video games so that people with poor motor control can play them.

I don't think it's actually a good thing to make it so everyone can do everything. Yeah, I know some people have disabilities that are beyond their control. But there's not a whole lot of value in completely taking away the ability for anyone to excel or stand out at anything. And I think making things super accessible does that.

Re: Controversial Opinions

(Anonymous) 2015-11-12 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know about video games, which exist to entertain people primarily.

But I do think historical buildings don't have to be handicap-accessible. If they can be converted without damaging or altering the structure, sure. But I think maintaining the authenticity of the historical building as much as possible is most important.
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You can't frigging win

[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-11-12 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
What devs say: "Hey, let's make a game for people with poor motor control!" What players hear: "Hey, let's completely stop making games that test your motor control!" See also: any time anyone wants to put more black people in movies.

Re: You can't frigging win

(Anonymous) 2015-11-12 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

Dude, no. I used that example because I read a post recently where people were making the argument that combat should be taken out of games as a whole.

If a dev wants to make a game for a certain group of people that's great. I don't have a problem with that.
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Re: You can't frigging win

[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-11-12 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
What?

I don't even know what to say now. Sorry?

(If you still have the link to this post, I seriously want to see it.)
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Re: Controversial Opinions

[personal profile] belladonna_took 2015-11-12 05:51 am (UTC)(link)
That's... not really the point? I'm going to try to be as polite as possible, because I had a physio appointment in a building with two flights of stairs and no alternate access today.

I think most people who would use something like this just want an in-game option or an adapted controller so they can enjoy the same game that everyone else is playing.

Universal accessibility doesn't have anything to do with taking away or dumbing down things that people already enjoy.
If you think about dvds that have a closed caption option, it doesn't ruin the movie for you just because it's in the menu, does it?

I mean, there's probably a market for games with lower-intensity combat, but I really don't think you have to worry about your precious combat games going anywhere. They sell. As long as they sell, they'll keep making them.

As far as excelling and standing out go, again, nobody is saying you can't achieve whatever you're aiming to achieve. I think you're confusing accessible and easy. If they market a game towards people who can barely hold a controller and it has no difficulty or challenge whatsoever, people won't buy it. I would also assume that for games that keep records of statistics they wouldn't lump together people using the assistance technology with other gamers.

I am trying to think of a single example of accessibility ruining things for able-bodied people and I can't.

Now, if what you're talking about has come directly from nutty SJW types suggesting that everyone needs to feign some level of disability so that we can appreciate what it's like to live as X type of disabled person and the world should treat every disabled person as special and inspirational for farting - I would suggest using some common sense, and the back button.

I'm not going to tell you to check your privilege or whatever. Just, maybe realise that gaming companies are not going to cater to whatever tiny percentage of the population actually would buy those games as opposed to the huge market they already have. IMO, as someone who does follow a lot of planned accessibility changes, your fears are very unlikely to become reality.

Re: Controversial Opinions

(Anonymous) 2015-11-12 05:59 am (UTC)(link)
Well said.
belladonna_took: richard armitage (Default)

Re: Controversial Opinions

[personal profile] belladonna_took 2015-11-12 08:05 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks!

I didn't want to hulk out or anything, but I've yet to see a misconception surrounding disability/access issues that couldn't be cleared up by applying common sense and remembering that disabled people are people, and our sole purpose is not to ruin things for everyone else. :/