[ SECRET POST #3237 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3237 ⌋

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[ninety6tears]

Clearly you don't think all slashers are like that and I don't think you're being unreasonable.

I think the thing that bugs me the most is how easy it is to justify--to others, to yourself, maybe I've even sorta thought it--it not being objectifying because there's an embrace of the characterization and emotion in addition to the fucking, and usually you can't prove that those aspects only come up as sort of a reflexive or unconscious path to the fucking, but with a ship like Derek/Stiles? I don't have evidence, but of course that fucking pairing is all about them both being attractive. And on the extreme end of it people get almost delusional about just how subtexty it is and super-defensive on the subject in a way I don't even think is disingenuous, they just lose all perspective of how their id is playing into it after reading fifty fanfics that bend the relationship in that direction. I've recognized this tendency in my non-canon het shipping too, but with slash there's this sort of paradox between people convincing themselves it's some kind of progressive thing in response to the "it's not canon" criticism but also in some contexts not ever having to explain themselves because white cock is such a status quo and it's unreasonable to argue with every little case of it that comes along, and somewhere in between all that is my preferred point of "No one is trying to tell you what to ship, but there's a way to ship without bullshitting other people about it and it doesn't hurt to stop and think about your tendencies every once in a while."

[(Anonymous)]

this is one word vomit-y comment.

[ninety6tears]

*obligingly feels like a loser*

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT *pats you* Please don't feel like a loser. I thought your comment was a pretty good one. Yes, it could have used a couple of paragraph breaks, but you made good points.

And on the extreme end of it people get almost delusional about just how subtexty it is and super-defensive on the subject in a way I don't even think is disingenuous, they just lose all perspective of how their id is playing into it after reading fifty fanfics that bend the relationship in that direction.

I agree with this immensely, and this does tend to be the area where I start finding slash shippers attitudes bothersome or problematic or what have you. I love slash and I don't feel that loving slash is something that should need to be defended to anyone. But sometimes there gets to be contingents in a fandom who become so convinced of the righteousness and...canonicity? canonicality?...of their pairing, that they accuse people to don't see the pairing the way they do of being bad people. Like they accuse these people of being homophobic for not supporting/believing in their ship. That kind of thing. That's messed up.

[(Anonymous)]

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