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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-11-14 03:58 pm

[ SECRET POST #3237 ]


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[personal profile] annethecatdetective 2015-11-15 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
I think that for a lot of slash fans, part of what drove them to slash was a lack of well-rounded and well-written female characters, and the kind of weight being given to male friendships... but OH. MAN. Once you mentioned Psych, I knew EXACTLY what kind of fangirls you were talking about. I noped out of the Psych fandom hard seeing the treatment Gus got...

I think the type of slash fangirls you get in different fandoms can vary a lot, because some are queer girls who aren't attracted to men themselves but who love writing about those characters and relationships, and some of them are fourteen year old girls who just want to write about hot boys using saliva for lube (NOOOOOOOOO), and then there's everything in between... but I totally understand how disheartening it is to keep running into the latter type.

(Anonymous) 2015-11-15 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
I think that for a lot of slash fans, part of what drove them to slash was a lack of well-rounded and well-written female characters,

I really don't buy that argument, to be honest. Yes, it's true that there's a paucity of female characters - but if femslash or het really appeals to you more than anything else, you'll find a way.

I think the reason slash is so popular is because people like it the most. And there's nothing wrong with that.

(Anonymous) 2015-11-15 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
I agree that people slash because they like to slash.

Take the Inception fandom. I love shipping Arthur/Eames, some really great stories have come from it. However, they were minor characters in the film. If we were basing things on screen time Ariadne/Cobb, Cobb/Mal, Arthur/Ariadne, or Ariadne/Mal would be the primary pairing to come from it.

My two favorite pairings from a small fandom are one that largely ignores the love triangle and one where the two characters spoke once. Shipping finds a way.

(Anonymous) 2015-11-15 07:00 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT I think it's that the vast majority of female characters are written a certain way in relation to the male character. It's not necessarily that a female character is a crappy character, so much as that her character, specifically as it relates to her love interest, is cliched and/or bland and/or gender normative.

In cases where this isn't true - where a female character is written as having a love interest, but is not written as bland/cliched/gender normative in her relationship to him - there are often other reasons why the pairing doesn't spark shippers' interest. Perhaps the characters aren't written as equally important characters; that tends to make them less ship-tastic to a lot of people. Or perhaps the tone of the show simply doesn't encourage shipping.

A lot of shippers are attracted to subtext and fanon. Slash is really good for that. If there were more shows where there were two equal lead characters, of different genders, and the writers didn't hit you over the head with a bland, obvious romantic story line between them, I honestly believe there would be way more popular het ships. I mean, look at Mulder/Scully. That pairing was HUGE back in the day. Was it a coincidence that it was also, for the first five seasons, almost entirely subtext and fanon? I think not.