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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-11-18 07:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #3241 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3241 ⌋

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Re: Inspired by #2

[personal profile] philstar22 2015-11-19 09:48 am (UTC)(link)
Faramir isn't tempted at all. Plenty resist the temptation. Gandalf does. Galadriel does. Sam does. Frodo does for a while. But Faramir isn't resisting temptation, we're never shown the ring even having an affect on him at all. And I don't see why the ring wouldn't have tried because Faramir does want things. Faramir would not be willing to do evil to win, of course, but I think that like with Gandalf the ring would have at least tried to tempt him with the idea of using it to protect his people. But Faramir's refusal is written differently to Gandalfs. It is written as if there is no temptation there at all, as if the ring never even tried and as if Faramir doesn't want anything. And that is what bugs me personally. I don't think it shows strength and goodness if a character is never even tempted at all. The strength is in the resisting. Gandalf shows that. Sam shows that. I don't really think Faramir does.

Re: Inspired by #2

(Anonymous) 2015-11-19 09:58 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I'm not going to be able to convince you but I think you're looking at the text in the wrong way. I think he is tempted but it's nothing to him because he is a deeply moral man who cannot be led astray. But even if you think he was never tempted, I would say there is great value and strength in that too. Faramir is the example of the best of humans. He is the embodiment of the nobility that men can achieve. He is hope. He is the good example that others can follow, and that is very important to a lot of readers, which is why it was so upsetting to see what they did to his character. Maybe you don't think humans can be this good, which is sad, but some of us like to think we could be so Faramir is important as he is in the book. Given the deeply moral tale Tolkien is telling, his appearance makes total sense in the book.