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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-11-22 03:58 pm

[ SECRET POST #3245 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3245 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2015-11-22 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I would've agreed with this, if you can convince me that the following:

(and this is just from the first movie)
-burning and blistering someone's hand with a red hot doorknob
-letting someone slip down icy stairs
-burning top of head with a blowtorch to the point of baldness/blistering
-dropping a clothes iron from eight feet onto someone's face
-letting someone step on an upturned nail barefoot
-letting someone whose foot has been pierced by a nail step on loose sharp ornaments
-setting someone up to slip on micro machine toys and fall on a hardwood floor
-hitting someone in the head with a full paint can while they are climbing a flight of stairs, causing them to fall down the stairs
-causing someone to trip on a wire
-cutting a cord suspended at three stories while someone is hanging from it, causing them to crash right face first into a brick wall, and then fall the rest of the way to the ground

...is justified in the least for their crimes.

I'm not saying they don't need to be punished. But Kevin is an eight-year-old child and should not be deciding the nature or the severity of the punishment.

Of course, if he'd been smart enough to call the police in the first place (instead of waiting until after dealing out the violence), we wouldn't have had a movie that was halfway entertaining...

(Anonymous) 2015-11-22 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe he was smarter than his mother and realized that the police in that town were useless. The cops were notified that there was a little kid alone at home and none of them took the whole thing seriously.

(Anonymous) 2015-11-23 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
If the cops were useless, why did he bother calling them after he had done everything?

And to the cops' credit, they at least drove up to the house and rang the doorbell. Not sure what else they could have done with a scared child hiding in his parents' bed.

Those things were pretty violent, that's true enough.

(Anonymous) 2015-11-23 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
However, they were all defensive. If the bad guys weren't trespassing, breaking and entering, chasing after an eight-year-old with the intent to cause harm, none of it would have happened.

I'm not a very violent person, but if people were breaking into my house, especially if they were much larger, had followed and threatened me, I don't think I would feel that bad for trying to stop them with, say, a baseball bat or something like it.

Re: Those things were pretty violent, that's true enough.

(Anonymous) 2015-11-23 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
.........no, they were not all "defensive." Kevin deliberately laid traps (leaving a side window open, for instance) and repeatedly told the bandits to chase after him (saying things like "You'd better come get me!" or "I'm up/over here!")

I'm not talking about self-defense. Kevin plotted the entire thing out, if you remember the poster he drew. And then he cheered after every trap they fell into. That doesn't make him much better than the bandits themselves, in my opinion.

For the record, I'll admit that Kevin probably did feel threatened by a couple of adult men trying to break into his house and briefly following him, but the bandits never directly threatened Kevin before they went to his house on that last night.

Re: Those things were pretty violent, that's true enough.

(Anonymous) 2015-11-23 12:31 pm (UTC)(link)
tbh you sound like the type of people who complain that To Catch a Predator is "entrapment," as if the pedos are somehow being forced to chat sexually with kids. if the thieves wanted to, they could have easily left. they're the ones who kept coming into the house despite the defensive traps. if they left, they wouldn't be harmed. just because he was teasing them doesn't make them not defensive traps.

Re: Those things were pretty violent, that's true enough.

(Anonymous) 2015-11-23 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
tbh you sound like someone who victim-blames and justifies abuse, and turns around and accuses people of being child molester apologists because they don't believe in unwarranted violence done in retaliation for something that wasn't remotely violent.

Jesus Christ, how is that even a comparison. Catching a pedophile in a non-violent manner vs repeated violent acts on someone who won't go away.

OMG THE THIEVES COULD'VE LEFT AT ANY TIME

Yeah, no shit. And Kevin could've called the police at any time. Instead he waited until after he had repeatedly poked the bear and doled out punishment. Two wrongs don't make a right.

(Anonymous) 2015-11-23 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
I'm kind of impressed how none of this deterred the thieves