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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-11-22 03:58 pm

[ SECRET POST #3245 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3245 ⌋

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Re: How much do you kinkshame?

(Anonymous) 2015-11-22 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
+100000000

How do people not see that the whole fictional murder/eroticized noncon comparison just does not work?

If people went around eroticizing murder? Like, if we were meant to watch Criminal Minds with a hand down our pants? That absolutely would be the grossest and most messed up fucking thing. Would it be as gross and horrible as someone actually doing that stuff? OF COURSE NOT, the two don't even compare. But just because they're not in the same vicinity doesn't mean only one can be harmful and the other must be a-okay.

Re: How much do you kinkshame?

(Anonymous) 2015-11-22 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh what, people do eroticize murder all the time. Think of all the cool sexy badass villains that kill people and are considered cool and attractive for being such badasses

I mean do you realize how many there are???

Obviously murder in criminal minds is not eroticized, and there are instances of fictional rape that are not eroticized, but good god so much of fandom loves characters that kill other characters, comparing criminal minds to hot murderers is about as off as comparing passion of the christ to eroticized fictional torture, the intent is different and that matters

Re: How much do you kinkshame?

(Anonymous) 2015-11-23 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Some popular fiction may portray villains as cool, and even sexy, but it almost always portrays their actions as, well, villainous and bad and in need of being stopped.

Popular fiction that portrays the actual killing/raping/torturing as hot deserves to be soundly criticized and shut down, IMO. But then, I'm having a hard time thinking of anything I've read/watched that treated those things like they were hot. Maybe The Vampire Diaries (which I do find reprehensible, FWIW). But even there, the narrative had this wonky attitude where the killing and torturing was...sort of treated like it was supposed to be hot, but at the same time treated like it was very very bad and the character doing those things had to be stopped.

there are instances of fictional rape that are not eroticized

And those are the ones I'm okay with. It's pretty simple really.