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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-11-22 03:58 pm

[ SECRET POST #3245 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3245 ⌋

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Re: How much do you kinkshame?

(Anonymous) 2015-11-23 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
Do you feel the same about violent video games, especially shooter games?

And what about other morally wrong irl kinks, like rape, vore, and abusive relationships? Should people feel ashamed for finding those things sexy in a fictional setting?

SA

(Anonymous) 2015-11-23 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
Additionally, it's worth noting most people into underage insert themselves as underage, not the abuser.

I guess my issue is that fantasy aspects can translate into real life, but for the most part fantasies are to explore aspects that people can't achieve in real life or the aspects they enjoy of it don't translate well into a real life setting.

Re: SA

(Anonymous) 2015-11-23 08:55 am (UTC)(link)
Do you feel the same about violent video games, especially shooter games?

It's pretty case specific I think. It seems like the majority of complex, realism-based video games that involve killing people also tend to be in the context of sanctioned violence. The gamer will be a soldier or something. I still personally find the whole thing a little bit dodgy (if you're killing people and not some kind of critter), but it's not something I generally feel the need to publicly criticize. Unless the game incentivizes violence against civilian characters, in which case I do find that objectionable. If anything, war games and their ilk ought to punish a player for killing/harming civilians.

And if it's a game that incentivizes violence for violence's sake, like you're supposed to be a thug or a gangster or something, I find that objectionable as well. I don't like the idea of banning certain kinds of gaming content, because I'm really not a fan of censorship, so that's where criticism comes in. Criticism allows us to incrementally influence how certain narratives and concepts are viewed, without actually placing any restrictions on content.

But I don't game, as you can probably tell, so this is really all conjecture.

And what about other morally wrong irl kinks, like rape, vore, and abusive relationships? Should people feel ashamed for finding those things sexy in a fictional setting?

My comment from bellow mostly covers this: https://fandomsecrets.dreamwidth.org/1320417.html?thread=874553313#cmt874553313

As for vore, I have no idea. I've never read any vore so it's a bit hard to say.

As for whether people ought to feel ashamed for finding such things sexy...I don't really know whether shame comes directly into it or not. What it comes down to is that I wish people wouldn't post those sorts of fanworks publicly, to general boards and communities. And I wish critical (but civil) viewpoints on such content were treated as welcome, or at the very least were not attacked as they typically are. Because as I said above, criticism is often the flexible half measure that makes censorship unnecessary - not because it stops the objectionable content from being created, but because it doesn't allow the objectionable thing to become separated from its objectionability.