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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-11-25 06:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #3248 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3248 ⌋

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We're winning (celebrate your victories thread)

(Anonymous) 2015-11-26 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
After typing this out it might be a little triggery / spoilery, so it's going in a second comment.

Re: We're winning (celebrate your victories thread)

(Anonymous) 2015-11-26 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
So I think alot of people get very hung up on the way's we're defeated. I think it's easy to forget howfar we've come in favour of how much further we have to go. Ofcourse there's always more to do, there will always be more to do, but we should celebrate the victories as we win them. In 2015 alone we've achieved so so much.

In print media alone we have stopped playboy from doing nudes, followed by the closure of the lad's mag industry with Zoo, Nuts, FHM going out of business.

In TV now have a 2 superhero shows about women and we have even more in the pipline. And holy shit, Jessica Jones! We have managed to get a TV show about a female superhero, with a heavy enphsis on rape and it has with zero titilation, zero fanservice, and basically zero gratuitous rape. It's a show about a comic book superheroine with an accetable bustsize dealing with rape trauma, and doing it respectfully! It's a show from and for the womans perspective. Had you asked me in 2014 if this was somthing any entertainment industry was capable of I'd have laughed in your face. Had you told me it was going to be a marvel comics story I'd have had you committed.

Films, Just take a look at films! Nothing much to report, but we have female lead superhero films coming down the pipline! Jennifer Lawrence is fighting the good fight in everything she does and is winning! There is no stopping her! And on the subject of things that absolutly will not stop, The new terminator, while admittedly trash, is back to focusing on the actual hero of the series and not her douchbag son. Sure it's not perfect, they still felt the need to include Arnold and the boring idoit guy, and there was some unnecessary nudity, and the plot was... whatever... Point is the focus is back where it belongs. Celebrate the good!

And games! after last years Gamergate shitshow how could anyone have seen the strides we'd make! Assassins creed has the fist female protagonist in a main game, and sure we could focus on the fact that the guy is still the main main character, but we must not forget to celebrate every inch of ground we gain. The new tomb raider game has Lara Croft with a healthy realistic bust, that is actually hidden behind some clothes. Appropriate (in terms or weather / activity practicalities and modern sensibilties) clothes for the fist time in the 20 some years of the franchise. And now even Japan, Fucking Japanese Game developers, Even they are getting the message. Read this bit of beautiful news I found today: http://www.gamespot.com/articles/dead-or-alive-xtreme-3-wont-ship-worldwide-due-to-/1100-6432590/ Sure, we could focus on how they're still making this trash, but they're atleast keeping in in their own country. They've stepped back. We can take some heart in that and use it to keep pushing. The more steps back they have to make the closer we are to stopping this shit from happening. Finally Undertale. If you're sitting here thinking "Huh? What's that?" stop screw about, go on steam, and buy that shit!

So honestly, it's true, there is so much more to do and there always will be, but please don't ever forget that we are, little by little, winning.

Re: We're winning (celebrate your victories thread)

(Anonymous) 2015-11-26 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
http://whitegirls88.tumblr.com/

Re: We're winning (celebrate your victories thread)

(Anonymous) 2015-11-26 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
You sound like you are trying to convince yourself. Also, you must be a white American young adult if this is what you are counting as victories.

Meanwhile, in shit that matters, Gambia banned female genital mutilation.
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Re: We're winning (celebrate your victories thread)

[personal profile] quirkytizzy 2015-11-26 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
I'm a white American OLD adult woman.

Victories are victories.
Edited 2015-11-26 01:53 (UTC)

Re: We're winning (celebrate your victories thread)

(Anonymous) 2015-11-26 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
what are your thoughts on sex positivity, anon

Re: We're winning (celebrate your victories thread)

(Anonymous) 2015-11-26 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
my complaint with jessica jones is that it's like 13 hours of watching a woman combat her trauma triggers. daredevil get's hit in the head and get's to do awesome fight scenes. jessica get's raped and spends the whole series being horrible to people and recalling street names to deal with her trauma. is it realistic? Maybe, but it's not fun to watch, and I just think "of course this is the premise of one of the first female lead marvel projects. it was never going to be luke cage dealing with prison rape trauma, was it".

and tomb raider? it would be great if they hadn't de-queered her. the 2013 game and their tie-in comics were much better. especially the comics. leave it to gail simone to have the iron-clad pussy needed to make a character that has only existed to be nothing but catnipp to horny boys into a strong queer-positive icon.

Re: We're winning (celebrate your victories thread)

(Anonymous) 2015-11-26 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
"Spends the whole series being horrible to people"

Right, because victimised women have to be /nice/ about it.

Re: We're winning (celebrate your victories thread)

(Anonymous) 2015-11-26 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Being a victim doesn't give you a free pass to be an asshole, darling.
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Re: We're winning (celebrate your victories thread)

[personal profile] quirkytizzy 2015-11-26 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
The street names is EXTREMELY realistic. Basic PTSD self-soothing technique. Repeat basic facts that take you to a place OTHER THAN the trauma. Some people do streets. I will repeat my name, my age, where I live, how many cats I have.

JJ FUCKING NAILED PTSD techniques.

Re: We're winning (celebrate your victories thread)

(Anonymous) 2015-11-26 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh, stop parroting Sarkeesian without doing research. That's like double research failure -surely the lacking research stacks.
Lara Croft had weather appropriate clothes even back in the day.

Re: We're winning (celebrate your victories thread)

(Anonymous) 2015-11-26 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
This is a good post and you should feel good.

Re: We're winning (celebrate your victories thread)

(Anonymous) 2015-11-26 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
You know who'd not winning? Charlie Sheen!

Re: We're winning (celebrate your victories thread)

(Anonymous) 2015-11-26 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
*who's

Re: We're winning (celebrate your victories thread)

(Anonymous) 2015-11-26 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
"with an accetable bustsize" Good to know once your boobs get past a certain size they're no longer acceptable!

I mean, you people who complain about big-breasted women know you're the other side of the same coin, right? You're shaming us for something we can't help and saying if we show up in anything we MUST only be there for titilation. You're no better than people who call big-breasted girls sluts for no reason than that they have big boobs.

Re: We're winning (celebrate your victories thread)

(Anonymous) 2015-11-26 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
Psst, Laura croft is fictional. You are not fictional. You are not designed and drawn by a creepy guy. No-one is judging ~you~.
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Re: We're winning (celebrate your victories thread)

[personal profile] comradesmiler 2015-11-26 12:57 am (UTC)(link)

Re: We're winning (celebrate your victories thread)

(Anonymous) 2015-11-26 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Fail by person you are replying to.
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Re: We're winning (celebrate your victories thread)

[personal profile] comradesmiler 2015-11-26 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry, I should post the quote.
It was never the intention to create some kind of 'page 3' girl to star in Tomb Raider. The idea was to create a female character who was a heroine, you know, cool, collected, in control, that sort of thing. The problem with those other games is that the female characters are actually there for purely exploitative purposes. I know you could argue that Lara with her comic book style over-the top figure is exploitative, but I don't agree. I think it's ridiculous to say that portraying stylised people is degrading.

Re: We're winning (celebrate your victories thread)

(Anonymous) 2015-11-26 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
Psst, the quote was in reference to the Jessica Jones TV show, which stars an actual real woman who has the "acceptable bustsize."

And even so, the whole idea that women in media have to have small boobs to be "acceptable" and not "creepy" or overly sexualized IS a judgment of real women who are busty. At the very least, it says there's something wrong and sexist with characters who look like us, which let me tell you, is not a good message to send to ANYONE, and I think it's fucking bullshit to claim feminism while saying a certain group of women shouldn't get characters who look like them simply because those characters are "too sexy."

Re: We're winning (celebrate your victories thread)

(Anonymous) 2015-11-26 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
I was with you up until that incredibly racist garbage at the end, so holy shit fuck you sideways white girl.
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Re: We're winning (celebrate your victories thread)

[personal profile] quirkytizzy 2015-11-26 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
Fuck yeah. Seriously. Just finished JJ. FUCK. YEAH.
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Re: We're winning (celebrate your victories thread)

[personal profile] caerbannog 2015-11-26 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
They're nice little baby steps to cultural change, I agree there.
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Re: We're winning (celebrate your victories thread)

[personal profile] comradesmiler 2015-11-26 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
My brother seemed to like the copy of Titanfall (Brink but better) I got him for his birthday.
Sure, not as big or as cringe-worthy as your "victories" but hey.
Edited 2015-11-26 00:53 (UTC)