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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-02-19 04:58 am

[ SECRET POST #410 ]


⌈ Secret Post #410 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 10 pages, 226 secrets from Secret Submission Post #059.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, 0 not!secrets, 0 not!fandom, [ 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 ] too big, [ 1 ] posted twice, [ 1 2 ] repeat.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Wednesday, February 20th, 2008.
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

I'M SICK OF THIS LIFE, I JUST WANNA SCREAM

(Anonymous) 2008-02-20 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not asserting that Cloud is out of character; as I stated in my original comment, LHR is AU. Given the basic premise of the AU- that Cloud's primary motivation for all of his actions was unrequited love for Sephiroth- and the backstory/setup of LHR - Cloud being an even crazier science experiment than was revealed in-game, his post-game alienation from all of his comrades (you have to admit the pole-dancing thing was somewhat over the top, but as it occured in the first chapter and was presumably conceived when both the story and the author were much younger and somewhat more clueless in the ways of the bad fanfic cliche, it is forgiveable), and the thing with whatserface's pregnancy - Cloud's characterization was completely reasonable. However, there's no way to arrive at that characterization without first accepting the basic premise of the AU, and then acknowledging the worldbuilding and set-up of the story.

HOWEVER. If you do not accept the basic AU premise*, and you ignore the backstory, then the Cloud you see at the beginning of LHR bears only a passing resemblance to the Cloud of Final Fantasy VII. Yes, there are plenty of similarities, but LHR-Cloud is a long, long way from post-game Cloud in a pre-Advent Children fandom.

ANYWAY. WHY DOES VINCENT NEED TO PAIR OFF WITH ANYONE, HUH? HE'S BROODY AND LONELY. GOD, WHY CAN'T YOU PEOPLE JUST LEAVE HIM ALONE? At any rate, if Cid weren't married to Shera (abusive relationship! I don't care if there's affection there, she'll always be the engineer who fucked up his rocket launch and he'll always be The Captain, and that's a bad power dynamic!) he and Vincent could hang out and drink tea together and be all, "Goddamn kids, always making too much goddamn noise, GET OFFA MY LAWN, INGRATES." GROUCHY TEA DRINKING LIFE MATES.

*I'm not going to argue that Cloud being madly in love with Sephiroth the whole time is an unviable premise- however, it is AU. You cannot extrapolate it directly from the canon; Cloud felt feelings of deep admiration and hero worship towards Sephiroth, but he was canonically not in love with the man. He was fourteen when he left for Midgar; he wante to join SOLDIER to prove to his hometown that he wasn't a fuckup, and to impress Tifa. That's canonical; that's reading the text. You can take Cloud's obsession with Sephiroth as being indicative of subtextual sexual/romantic desire, but it's not in the text. LHR's premise goes beyond being just a reading of the subtext and into full on AU, because it implies that Cloud's motivations throughout the entire game were based on sexual/romantic desire for Sephiroth, which is pretty much completely unsupported by the text. (Keeping in mind it's been forever since I've played the game or read the fic, augh. I could be stressing this too much, but whatever.)