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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-11-26 06:01 pm

[ SECRET POST #3249 ]


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Lack of character development

(Anonymous) 2015-11-27 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
You know that character who looks like they're up for some character development, and they're on the verge of changing and then...! Nope! The writers lose interest on them, or mess up, or ignore all the build up to the character development to keep the character stuck in the same old rut. Share your (least) favorite examples!

Re: Lack of character development

(Anonymous) 2015-11-27 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Every character in Homestuck. Admittedly I stopped reading at some point during one of his hiatus, but if I did it was because characters kept showing signs that they were going to grow and change only to become depressing parodies of themselves.

Re: Lack of character development

(Anonymous) 2015-11-27 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Maaaaan, this...
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Re: Lack of character development

[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-11-27 04:56 pm (UTC)(link)
This, omg, so much. :(

I still want to catch up and finish it, but some of my favorite characters have really stagnated...Vriska especially became awful, and that makes me sad.
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Re: Lack of character development

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2015-11-27 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
House. They would give him some character development and poof!

Sam and Dean. They just make the same stupid mistakes over and over and over and over. They never learn or grow.

Re: Lack of character development

(Anonymous) 2015-11-27 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
I know what you mean about House.
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Re: Lack of character development

[personal profile] meredith44 2015-11-27 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
House was my immediate first reaction as well. It annoyed me. As I liked the potential, such as with the Ketamine episodes. Oh well.

I agree about Sam and Dean too, but I stopped watching awhile ago, so I am only basing that on second-hand information I've read from others.

Re: Lack of character development

(Anonymous) 2015-11-27 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
Xaaaaaaaaander.

Seriously, The Zeppo should have been The Moment. Season Three should have been The Season. He totally could have become a really great example of "partly admirable but partly dickish immature teenage boy grows up." But not really. He had a whole bunch of other false starts all throughout season 4 and 5 but Whedon kept dragging him back into the rut.

Re: Lack of character development

(Anonymous) 2015-11-28 06:34 am (UTC)(link)
Whedon blew it when he had Xander lie to Buffy, he should forever be in his rut.

Re: Lack of character development

(Anonymous) 2015-11-27 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Supernatural, just... Supernatural.

For every character. Well, no. I mean, some of them die, I guess.

Re: Lack of character development

(Anonymous) 2015-11-27 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
I felt this way about Goku from Dragon Ball/Dragon Ball Z tbh. I know most of the fandom disagrees with me, and feel that he's good as a static character - and I get that, because I personally liked his personality a lot in DB and the Saiyan Saga, and I don't think static characters are automatically bad myself. But all the shit and the nature of the storylines he went through (not to mention the timescale - something like 20 years pass over the course of DB and DBZ) and the fact that he never really is shown thinking or talking about it, made his personality staying static just feel really weird and unnatural and unbelievable.

It got to the point in the last saga where I started idly headcanoning that he was actually faking it because he thought that's what everyone expected of him and that he wasn't allowed to change or become any different because he was supposed to be Guy Who Saves World And Is Totes Cool With That And Doesn't Need Anything and to stay that way forever in order to keep on being able to save everyone. And thinking back on it, I kinda wish this headcanon was canon.
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Re: Lack of character development

[personal profile] ketita 2015-11-27 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Huh. Consider me on board with your headcanon - I think that would actually be an interesting conflict for him.
I think Goku's static personality is part of the reason I was never crazy about him as a character myself.

Re: Lack of character development

(Anonymous) 2015-11-27 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Thomas from Downton Abbey, although it's more in the "ignore all the build up to the character development to keep the character stuck in the same old rut" category. LET THE POOR MAN BE LEAVE DOWNTON, GODAMMIT

Re: Lack of character development

(Anonymous) 2015-11-27 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this is so damn true.

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Re: Lack of character development

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2015-11-27 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
It's one of the big reasons why I just can't read mainstream comics anymore. In one issue, Mia Dearden has the local contacts to beat Batman, in the next, she's dumb and upstaged by Doctor Mid-Nite.
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Re: Lack of character development

(Anonymous) 2015-11-27 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Quinn from Glee was constantly getting storylines that set her up to learn lessons or grow or at least change, but she was always the exact same in the next eisode.

Re: Lack of character development

(Anonymous) 2015-11-27 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
Black Star from Soul Eater. Every time you think he's going to have a life lesson he either back tracks or his arrogance wins out in the end. I had trouble liking him as a character because of this, while he had some good traits the text tended to reward him for being an arrogant ass while the other characters tended to get smacked down a little more for their faults. Or at least it felt that way to me.

Re: Lack of character development

(Anonymous) 2015-11-27 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Every character in Bleach.

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Re: Lack of character development

[personal profile] ketita 2015-11-27 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
I felt some of that in Fool's Assassin with Fitz. He had moments where he was actually being really mature but still felt like himself, and I was so happy - and then it felt like the author forced him to backslide and made him an idiot again. It frustrated the hell out of me.

J.D. from Scrubs

(Anonymous) 2015-11-27 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
Every single episode he learned the same exact lesson and still persisted in being a shitty, self-centered douche.

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Re: Lack of character development

[personal profile] leisuretime 2015-11-27 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
Stargate Atlantis and John "Suicide Run" Sheppard.
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Re: Lack of character development

[personal profile] meredith44 2015-11-27 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
In addition to House, who was listed above, I want to add Tony from NCIS. I stopped watching a few seasons ago, but his character growth (or lack thereof) annoyed me so much. He would start to mature (such as when he was the leader when Gibbs was gone) and then they would take him right back to his immature, joking, fratboy ways. I couldn't take it anymore by the end.
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Re: Lack of character development

[personal profile] skeletal_history 2015-11-27 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
The worst -- THE WORST -- example of this that I've ever been forced to endure is the lead character, Lee Fiora, in the novel Prep by Curtis Sittenfeld. Here is my goodreads review where I rage all about this particular thing, because I don't feel like getting riled up again by writing it out here.

Re: Lack of character development

(Anonymous) 2015-11-27 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
Chad, Orihime, all of Ichigo's normal friends, Sakura, a couple of people from Naruto . . . I'm mostly pissed about Orihime 'cause she could've been really awesome.
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Re: Lack of character development

[personal profile] otakugal15 2015-11-27 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
At least those characters get used. Poor Maraad in WoW was completely forgotten in his own damn expansion (Buting Crusade), placed randomly for one small thing in Wrath, and completely ignored (outside the comics where they introduced the stupidest Gary Stu ever in relation to him) until they needed him for Warlords...and then...they kill him. Without really doing some great development on his part.

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Poo on you, Blizzard. Poo.