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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-11-30 06:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #3253 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3253 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Fallout]


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[Colonel Fitzwilliam, Pride and Prejudice 1995 miniseries]


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[Master and Commander/Aubrey/Maturin series]


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[Undertale]


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[Justified]


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[Fury, Don/Boyd]


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(The Pioneer Woman/Ree Drummond)


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[Interworld]











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(Anonymous) 2015-12-01 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
I'm baffled by this concept of associating ranches with working class people. Is that really what most people think?

(Anonymous) 2015-12-01 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's more the American mythos of cowboys and the West and the frontier

(Anonymous) 2015-12-01 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
There are a lot of small ranchers out there.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-01 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Yep. I'm surrounded by them. Most of the people aren't rich, either.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-01 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
They used to be a thing. I am older by most fandom standards and I grew up surrounded by family farms. They were working class people with high school education who loved the land and the animals they raised. They took good care of both and it took care of their families for generations. In the late 80s/early 90s most of them went belly up because they couldn't compete with Big Business Agriculture. A few survived if they found a niche market like specialty produce. Ree came from money and her husband did too. They are Big Business Agriculture. That's part of the reason I can't stand her.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-01 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
They are still a thing. Family farms and ranches endure despite pressures from everything from agribusiness to the US government.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-01 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
I guess it depends on whether your association with ranch is a small farm with just about enough land that the family living on it can work it, or a huge ranch with tons of employees and modern machinery doing the work while the owners of the ranch get the money.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-01 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
Where are you from? When I lived in the UK, I got the sense that owning land and ranches was extremely high class.

In the US... well, these days I think owning a horse ranch probably means you're pretty well off, though certainly not any other sort of livestock. But definitely in the day, land was cheap and you had to be very hard working to run it. The cowboy image didn't spring out of nothing.

I'd say most farmers who own cattle though, may have a couple of horses, and they are almost definitely working class.

(Anonymous) 2015-12-01 04:32 am (UTC)(link)
If you're baffled, then it's probably because you're not aware of how they work in the U.S., historically. Ranches weren't always some luxury that only rich people could afford, they were how people made a living... and it was a very hard way to make a living, hence the WORKING part of working class.